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Author Topic: Missing credits at the end of a movie Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-25-2004 12:01 PM                        Todd, you asked the questions.... quote: Todd Cornwall So, if the print was screened by someone, why didnt replace the reel then? If it was meant as a screener, why werent steps taken to make sure THIS print does not get sent out to a theater? ...and then you answer them.... quote: (it's) just plan laziness. In other words, in this business, happens.  |  IP: Logged Adam Wilbert Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 590 From: Bellingham, WA, USA Registered: Mar 2002 posted 05-25-2004 01:58 PM                        I too have had this in a screener print. I ran Gone in 60 Seconds a few months before the release and it had a full soundtrack under where the credits should have been, but just black film on screen.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 05-25-2004 02:08 PM                        Opening titles and closing credits are often the final elements to be approved (locked) in a production. It's one reason the 6000-foot Extended Length Reels (ELR) didn't succeed -- printing 2000-foot reels allows a lab to begin printing the middle reels of a picture while awaiting final approval of the titles and credits, whereas they would have to wait for final approval before they could begin printing any of a 6000-foot ELR release. Since the final soundtrack may be approved before the credits, pre-release prints might just slug in clear negative, giving a print with the soundtracks, but black instead of credits.  |  IP: Logged Alan Haigh Film Handler Posts: 45 From: Watford, UK Registered: Jul 2003 posted 05-25-2004 02:58 PM                    I agree with John, they probably struck it as a grading check copy before the end titles were finished. BTW way I love the security coding on your picture, John - I almost missed it! Gives it a nice professional "release" look to it. Now you'll be able to trace the exact place that photo was stolen from. Great!  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 05-25-2004 03:04 PM                        The Anti-Piracy code on my Film-Tech photo is courtesy of Film-Tech, and not my idea. The CAP Code I helped Kodak develop over twenty years ago was much harder to see on the screen.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-25-2004 04:19 PM                        Not once you know it's there! Ever since I've been aware of those codes, they drive me crazy.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-25-2004 05:20 PM                     quote: Daniel Alt I saw a showing of "Galaxy Quest" looong after it was in first run where somehow the theater had been shipped a work print. Not only were there no credits, but half the effects hadn't been added in, so instead of shots of the spaceship at the end, there were a bunch of shots of an Apollo capsule reentering the atmosphere. Hmmm. Did they say "Fuck" in it? There's one scene near the end of GQ where Sigourney Weaver's lips CLEARLY mouth the word "Fuck" but the audio is something lame like "Damn" or "Shit". Probably didn't want the PG-13 rating for the holidays? =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Daniel Alt Expert Film Handler Posts: 111 From: Lakewood, OH, USA Registered: Mar 2004 posted 05-26-2004 06:41 AM                     Sorry, can't say as I recall.  |  IP: Logged Jeffry L. Johnson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 809 From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 05-26-2004 09:52 AM                        These "screener" prints are typically labeled "BID" prints. Some states have anti-blind bidding laws which require distributors to screen a release prior to accepting bids from exhibitors.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 05-26-2004 02:52 PM                        Well,look at the bright side. If you can get a replacement reel, perhaps you'll wind up with 1/3 reel of black leader. That's pretty useful around the booth!  |  IP: Logged

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