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Author Topic: Need Advice on Uninstalling Projectors Joshua Waaland Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-01-2004 09:40 PM                     John, Yes, these are the projectors at the Rochester Psychiatric Center. Your ebay username wouldn't happen to be 2782John would it? There was someone by that name that was bidding against me for that auction. I have been looking for a projection system for some time now and I could not pass up a turnkey operation such as this. It will save me lots of time and money rather than looking for and piecing parts together for the next few years. Scott, The guy told me that the only other thing in the booth that is not in the pictures are a couple of Neumade rewinders. But still I am preparing for more to be there. I am sure there must be more things there that he just doesn't realize I would want. The ebay auction said that I must take everything, so I plan to take EVERYTHING! I tried to post a picture on here, but I could not resize the pictures to fit. Also I made a very long list of things to take and a digital camera was one of the things on there. I want to take plenty of pictures to document the event. I will definitely send them in to Brad when I get them back. The installation pics may take a while though.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-01-2004 10:31 PM                  >>> Phil [ 06-02-2004, 08:48 AM: Message edited by: Phil Hill ]  |  IP: Logged Jon Miller Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 973 From: San Diego, CA, USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 06-01-2004 10:51 PM                     Man, do those things look immaculate! Joshua, you got the steal of the Simplex, I mean, the Century! <drool!>  |  IP: Logged William Bunch Film Handler Posts: 87 From: Misawa, Japan Registered: Nov 2001 posted 06-03-2004 06:41 AM                        My gosh!! Are those light switches on the wall the type with the white/black push buttons? The whole place is an imaculate museum. Be sure to take those switches too. And I bet the switchplate covers are pure bass with brass screws too. WOW!  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-03-2004 07:32 AM                        Yes, and don't forget to grab the phone (intercom?) off the wall, too. I bet that the electrical panel in the second picture has a bunch of scary-looking knife switches inside it. That Simplex (Altec?) amplifier could probably fetch a good price if you will be using more modern equipment. You can save a little bit of weight in the rectifiers by removing the Sil-Tubes (take pictures first so you know how it goes together).  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 06-03-2004 07:14 PM                     What a beauty!!!!!  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-03-2004 07:47 PM                     "That Simplex (Altec?) amplifier could probably fetch a good price if you will be using more modern equipment." Nice booth indeed! Be sure that the wiring in those old Simplex amplifiers are not suffering from dry rot before you power them back up. That was pretty common in those and in old RCA's. Have fun with it all! Mark  |  IP: Logged Joshua Waaland Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-03-2004 10:51 PM                     Thanks for all your help guys. I left home at 5 AM this morning and drove 4.5 hours there. I worked on them for 8.5 hours and drove back home. I finally got home at 11:15 PM. Long day! Wish I would have had help. I did it by myself and those friggin things are heavy. I will be sore tomorrow! The building had no electric so the only light was from one window. I had a furniture dolly and I had to navigate about 20 stairs that had 2-90 degree turns. I took the first rectifier down and got stuck in the first turn. I could not get the dolly to come out so I could get on the other side. I could only get it back up one step and managed to finnagle the dolly out then. I had one person offer me $500 for the sound system. Does this sound resonable? It is like new. It has tube sound and I have access to more modern, smaller, sound equipment. What do you think I could get on ebay for it? Also do you know if they make 220v single phase carbon-arc rectifiers? These rectifiers have six bulb type tubes in them. The guy told me they are probably not available anymore. Plus with running these in my home I will not be able to get 3 phase power. Thanks again guys! Josh  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-03-2004 11:26 PM                     No, Single phase arc rectifiers are just about non-existant these days. You might try just running one on 220 single phase and see how it goes. All you'll need at home is about 30 amps DC... but even the smallest size carbons may not burn right in at that current, I've only ever run one at 50 amps myself. An arc welding supply might work in the short term but will not be suitable for more than very intermittent duty. On the other hand there is a 220 volt single phase motor generator about 2 hours south of Salt LAke City. So if you're ever in the area just let me know. The owner there would like it out of his upstairs booth bathroom. Those are extremely scarce.... I mean the generator.... Mark  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 06-03-2004 11:28 PM                     You have some real classics there. I'm glad you got them!!!! Hope you can build your booth and have it look as nice and run as nice as they booth probably did. Congratulations! I wish I could have won that stuff. I would have found a place for them even though I am cramped for space. I'm wondering where I am going to stuff my 10KW Collins when I get it. But rest assured, I'll find someplace for it. I already have one transmitter sitting in my living room.  |  IP: Logged Joshua Waaland Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-13-2004 10:32 PM                     I tried to turn both of these over by hand. One turns but it is tight. The other only turns so far and then stops. I did not want to force it. I was told they have not been used for over 25 years. The oil has all but disappeared from the head. There are traces of it but it is thicker than molasses. How should I go about fixing these? Do I need to replace the bearings and strip the heads apart for cleaning? Also the soundheads have mirrors instead of the cells that I am used to seeing for the pickup of the sound. They also have a pull-out circuit board that contains tubes and the such. Is this okay to use with a modern soundsystem? If not can they be retrofitted? Also is there modern amplifiers that can run a 2 projection system? Can they all do that? I have a manual here for one sound system that I used to use that shows how to flip a dipswitch for a 2 projector system. Thanks. Josh  |  IP: Logged Rick Long Jr Expert Film Handler Posts: 211 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Jul 2000 posted 06-14-2004 09:41 PM                     First thing you should do is get an X-L manual from the manuals section and start by removing the intermittents, soung head to projector coupling, then see what component is tight. Try some projector oil in a squirt can to free things up. If you feel up to the job, most of the projector can be easily disassembled into sub-assemblies, that you can clean and rebuild if necessary. If the intermittints are tight, don't open them up. Try flushing with clean oil and see if it frees up. Just don't force anything. Those booth pictures sure bring back memories of my childhood. Good luck!  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-15-2004 07:31 AM                     "If the intermittints are tight, don't open them up. " Sorry Rick but I completely disagree on this one. With old dried up oil probably in there I would be very concerned about the spirals on both the star and cam being somewhat plugged up. I have seen this type of situation on many X-L's over the years and its remotely possible they might seize up.... Adding fresh oil isn't going to open up the spiral on a shaft thats been sitting that long. Ditto for both the upper and lower sprocket shaft spirals which are typically plugged up on an old head anyway. All three of these assemblies can only be properly cleaned by removal, and teardown. If you are nervous about working on your movements I would be happy to do it for you @ no cost if you ship them to our shop. I doubt they would need anything other than just a good cleaning. Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Joshua Waaland Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-05-2004 11:05 PM                     So we finally found a house and moved into it the weekend before this last. I took some pictures tonight of the basement in hopes of getting some input. The first picture is looking back towards the end where I plan to put the projectors. It shares this wall with the garage where the electrical box is and I can just run a breaker box down this wall for the theater. Speaking of which my dad is coming up here to help me upgrade the service to 200 amp. We will have to install a new main panel and some other things. He asked me how much amperage I planned on running in the theater. So how much will I need to run a Dolby CP-200 sound rack with a Christie AW3, a Kelmar rewind table and the Xl heads and a 1000 watt lamphouse? The second picture is of the end where the screen will go. I purposely planned this because I don't want the equipment next to the sump pump where all that moisture is. Especially if there is ever flooding I want them towards the higher end. So I figure I will build a hallway as wide as the staircase with a doorway to a room where the washer and dryer and furnace are and then a door on the other side with the theater. I will also have to close off the sump pump area in a small closet behind the screen. I figure I can get a 20 foot throw from this. The ceilings are nice and high and the previous owners had the basement dug up and waterproofed. The walls will need painted also and I will need to soundproof them too. Any other suggestions? Thanks. Josh  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-06-2004 12:54 AM                        The Hippodrome Theatre in the Masonic Temple in Auburn, NY is consumed in fire to rise from the ashes, like the phoenix.  |  IP: Logged

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