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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 06-13-2004 08:16 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
What's the reason Gordon? I said my preference and backed it up with my reasoning.

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Michael Barry
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 - posted 06-13-2004 11:59 PM      Profile for Michael Barry   Email Michael Barry   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
At the Ritz, there is a combination of both operator and non-operator side platter installations. I found that I could thread non-operator slightly faster, but both were painless.

Because there is no 'lower magazine first' return common to all decks, and no 'down, then up' payout path, threading is that much faster. My only gripe is the one Steve mentioned: when the platter is on the operator side and you are taking up on the bottom deck, during threading there is nothing to keep the film on the rollers. Once you take up the tension, then you have to make another trip around the platter to seat the film correctly. This last point isn't an issue with non-operator side installs - the film seats itself.

I would like to hear what Gordon, Steve and others think about the Kinoton make-up table (the new ones that synchronise table and platter control). I feel it is the make-up table that needed to happen, but for some reason, until now...hasn't.

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 06-14-2004 09:39 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I like to have the audio rack on the operating side facing the operator when standing by the machine and since I like th platter to be at right angles it therefore goes on the non operating side

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Demetris Thoupis
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From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus
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 - posted 06-23-2004 03:27 AM      Profile for Demetris Thoupis   Email Demetris Thoupis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Kinoton ROCKS!!
Only one chain has Kinoton here in Cyprus and those projectors and platters run as smooth as a bee. They are the best. Very easy projectors to operate, extremely gentle on film handling, AMAZING Picture quality and steadines. The only think I don't like about Kinoton is their wall rollers which unlike Kelmar rollers, you cannot mount them on a wall and route them a meter away!!! (ok you got my point). They come straight out and you cannot give them an angle. You can only angle the actual roller and not the roller arm. Even though they have this dissadvantage, we managed to create an interlock system, using Kinoton film accumulators and rollers passing though ladder path up the ceiling on a wall down to the projector and it works perfectly everytime. This specific chain uses this interlock system a lot even to move prints as on the last show of the week for example screen no 1 film rests on platter of screen no 2. You can place the platter ANYWHERE you want. Some use of additional rollers and you can make anything. But really, who wants to place the platter of a projector anywhere else rather than a 90 degree angle???
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Michael Schaffer
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 - posted 06-23-2004 04:26 AM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Even if you use an extra roller somewhere to make up for a path not at 90°, you still have less rollers than on most other platter systems to go over. Less rollers=less mechanical wear and damage risk.

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