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Topic: Teen Caught with Camcorder at Spider-Man 2
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Christian Appelt
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Frankfurt, Germany
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 07-05-2004 12:43 PM
quote: Paul G. Thompson Camcorders account for 92 percent of all illegal copies of films that are sold online and on street corners worldwide, according to the MPAA.
There are lies, there are damn lies and there's statistics. In many countries, they sell the lowest quality VCDs and DVDs that no one in the U.S. or Europe would look at even for a single minute. I have seen VCDs from China and India which obviously were taped in theatres, even shot hand held and with people walking through the frame all the time. There is a market for that stuff, but the MPAA seems to forget that not everybody who picks up such a crap disc could afford to pay $7 or € 8 for a movie ticket or 16,99 for a Special Edition DVD.
And to make it more threatening, they ignore the fact that some countries, take India, have a large film production output, so many of these mythical 92% will not affect the studios and distributors represented by the MPAA.
Piracy is a bad thing and I definitely support the practice of checking the auditorium for cameras, but these 92% thing is just crap, we all know that the screener & post production leakage has been the prime problem in the last years.
We have come to the point where some people cannot grasp the idea of creative ownership any more. Last weekend I supervised a Betacam video taping of a jazz concert, and after an hour a guy comes to my desk where I am mixing the camera signals and starts talking in a strange way. First I thought he had a technical question, but then I realized that his constant repetition of "You are recording the concert, so the music is on the video tape, right?" meant that he wanted a copy. I told him No Way, talk to the band's manager if you want their music, or buy a CD. He repeated his but-it's-already-on-the-video stuff again, and so I politely asked him to leave.
Now this guy was no bootlegger, but like many people he had come to assume that as soon as a piece of work has been recorded (from movies to software), he had a right to get a copy for free. To me, this is pure insanity, but it has become a fact of life...
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David Buckley
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Oxford, N. Canterbury, New Zealand
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted 08-04-2006 02:43 PM
Movie Filmed in Cinema
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Movie filmed in cinema
SATURDAY , 05 AUGUST 2006
A woman caught in a Christchurch cinema trying to film a movie on her camcorder is the second such case in Canterbury in three months.
In the latest example a woman was spotted by staff at Northlands Hoyts apparently recording a movie trailer – ironically an anti-piracy message – ahead of the popular children's movie Cars.
New Zealand Federation Against Copyright Theft (NZFACT) executive director Tony Eaton said cinema staff contacted management and the woman, who was sitting with her family near the back of the cinema, was approached and her video recorder seized.
Eaton believed the woman intended recording the film for piracy purposes and had reported the case to police. He planned to courier his file on the matter to Christchurch police on Monday.
Under the Copyright Act the woman could face up to five years in prison, or a fine of between $10,000 and $150,000, if convicted.
Three months ago a similar attempt to pirate a movie was spotted in a mid-Canterbury cinema. Eaton said the NZFACT file on this case was in the police's "to do" pile.
Detective Senior Sergeant Grant Wormald said the first he had heard about the case was on the radio and he hoped to receive details about it early next week.
Northlands operations manager James McIntosh said he was contacted on Wednesday afternoon about the apparent videoing of Cars but knew no further details.
Eaton, a former police officer, said movie piracy was a "huge" business estimated to cost the industry worldwide $6.1 billion a year.
In New Zealand the big players were motorcycle gangs and Asian organised crime.
"We're finding most of this stuff is organised crime and sold through their networks alongside cannabis and stolen goods."
Eaton said his organisation knew of more than 40 commercial operations earning more than $50,000 each selling video bootlegs.
Usually bootlegs were made from pirate copies picked up in Asia or by downloading the movies from the internet. It was less common to record a movie using a video camera and no-one had yet been charged for doing this.
However, cinemas became alert to the risk after bootlegged DVDs of an early version of Sione's Wedding were discovered.
NZFACT was set up in May 2005 and now had 10 private investigators working in the country. It was one of 85 anti-piracy organisations worldwide funded by the Motion Picture Association of America.
Last month it sued 14 New Zealanders for selling more than 10,000 pirated DVDs on internet auction sites, including Trade Me. Eaton said the sellers had made tens of thousands of dollars and substantial settlements were agreed.
Criminal prosecutions have included Auckland man Benjamin Samu, who in February was fined $1000 and ordered to do 300 hours' community work for selling pirated DVDs at markets. Another Aucklander John Houston, 42, was due to be sentenced this month after admitting 21 charges of copyright theft.
Having said that, Northlands Hoyts suck as film handlers, they're the ones I refer to as my local suckplex...
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Frank Angel
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From: Brooklyn NY USA
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posted 08-04-2006 03:21 PM
2004 quote: Thomas Procyk The MPAA seized 52 million illegally duplicated optical discs worldwide in 2003, when optical-disc piracy reportedly costs the industry $3.5 billion in lost revenue.
2006 quote: movie piracy was a "huge" business estimated to cost the industry worldwide $6.1 billion a year.
Wow, that's some increase....I guess the crap code or that asinine MPAA trailer campaign aren't working as well as the MPAA thought. Maybe someone over there should face the fact that screen copy DVDs are NOT the source or the reason all this money is being lost, but insider copies are. But how long can we keep saying this. Obviously there is a political imperative for the MPAA and the industry to stick to this party line.
My theory has always been that it justifies the existance of the MPAA....gives them a reason to collect money from all the studios to continue their operation. Jack Valenti in his day was no fool. First he convinced the studios that they needed saving from impending govermental censorship (which was real) so he invented the Rating System. When that was over and done with, the MPAA needed to find some other hot cause that would push the studio exec's buttons and for which it could be the studios' Knight-in-Shining-Armor to save them. Jack hit on PIRACY, or as he coined it, "a cancer in the belly of the industry," a line that ole Jack would automatically repeat like Pavlov's dog and with that odd little lisp he had, anytime a camera was pointed anywhere near him.
It's all smoke and mirrors and it's all to amass influence and power. It's much easier to get congress to extend the copyright laws with these exaggerated claims, like from the original 24 and the need to re-apply for the next 24 for a total of 48 years which the law intended, to what they've jacked it up to now --"the life of the author plus 75 years -- anyone venture a guess what the "life" of 20th Century Fox is? In effect, removing Public Domain from the body politic's vocabulary. The industry thru the MPAA has effectively gotten the FBI to be its private police force, and now I see it's got other police agencies in other countries under its employ as well: quote: NZFACT was set up in May 2005 and now had 10 private investigators working in the country. It was one of 85 anti-piracy organisations worldwide funded by the Motion Picture Association of America.
There is a reason why someone who shoots a kid in the head in a cold blooded murder gets 8 years in jail and someone who copies a movie with a camcorder gets 5 years. This skewed value system is due to this kind of political manipulation and the MPAA effectively making it sound like Hollywood will cease to exist unless they get what they want in the way of copyright law ammendments and being able to utilize the entire FBI as their own law enforcement agency. [ 08-05-2006, 12:52 AM: Message edited by: Frank Angel ]
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David Buckley
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From: Oxford, N. Canterbury, New Zealand
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted 08-04-2006 09:52 PM
I have seen very few pirate movies in my life, but have seen two now in the last few months, Cars, and Poseiden. I watched them on a lappie, so my expectations weren't high, but given the limitations of the medium it looked Ok. I assumed (knowing nothing of the history) that these were lifts off the DVD.
Well, I was pretty surprised to see someone walking in front of the screen on both of them, and on one of them, totally gobsmacked to have the soundtrack drop out as some announcement came through loud and clear!!!!! Clearly the audio pickup was from some odd route, I've never seen a presentation where some trivial announcement is made over a movie being shown in an auditorium.
I have to confess, I just fell about laughing. If this is the standard of pirate movies, then even the sub-par houses have little to worry about. Or maybe people really really dont care.
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