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Author Topic: 16mm xenon projector recommendations Alain LeTourneau Film Handler Posts: 37 From: Portland, OR Registered: Jan 2004 posted 07-06-2004 02:28 AM                        I think for those with a budget the Elmo LX-1100 is a probably the best choice. FP-18 is a little steep, and the 38 is way over budget! I like Christian's comments about claw movements...."depends on projector". It's too easy for novices like me to take comments like geneva good, claw bad seriously. Without experience its hard to say and I've seen many films projected....if I only knew on what projectors. As for Leo's comment on what will be projected its about 50/50. Half will be new prints (people still make 16mm despite the economics) and old (and sometimes) shrunken prints. Alain  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-06-2004 08:04 AM                     By far the best of the lot was the Eastman 25. If you can find a nice clean one its as good as it gets for 16mm. Easy to thread, small footprint but still accomodates 6K foot reels, Rock steady image and your film runs over ruby jewells in the gate! There were some with internal incandescent lamphouse and some with carbon arc which are easily converted over to Xenon. Contact Jim at Full Aperature Systems in Chicago he is an expert on them and rebuilds them and installs them in high end screening rooms and theatres. A couple of recent installa of rebuilt 25s he did was for Disney, another at a Jewish museum in California. Mark  |  IP: Logged Alain LeTourneau Film Handler Posts: 37 From: Portland, OR Registered: Jan 2004 posted 07-06-2004 12:23 PM                        I missed the bidding on an Eastman 25 on eBay. It was the carbon model and sold for $750. University of Michigan surplus. The last quote I got for an Eastman 25 install was close to $20,000. Not really in my ballpark or the organization I'm trying to help. This was for a somewhat small space as well. Alain  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-06-2004 01:51 PM                        quote: Alain LeTourneau The last quote I got for an Eastman 25 install was close to $20,000 Easy to get spoiled at Kodak. We have three Eastman Model 30s in one of our screening rooms, and some 25's and 30's in other Kodak screening rooms. An oldie but goodie, if you can find them and a source of spare parts.  |  IP: Logged Alain LeTourneau Film Handler Posts: 37 From: Portland, OR Registered: Jan 2004 posted 07-06-2004 06:29 PM                        Is it true that the Eastman 25 shares parts with the Eastman 285 telecine projector? Alain  |  IP: Logged Larry Shaw Expert Film Handler Posts: 238 From: Boston, MA, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 07-13-2004 09:08 PM                        I talked to people at both the Elmo and Eiki booths at the NSCA trade show RE: their 16mm products. Sadly both assured me that they would no longer be building or supporting the 16mm products. Regarding Kinoton/Norelco parts, for later models everything is available, but as they get older some parts, particularly ones that are not "wear items" are scarce. Example: we have no FP-16 lamp tables, but all the bits that touch the film and are part of the drive train we do have. Regarding Bauer Selecton series, things are spotty, and very little is being made due to lack of demand. That said, we do have 3 brand new Selecton II-0 movements in stock. Its hard for me to reccomend that folks buy machines that cannot be reliably repaired, despite my high regard for some of the designs. This is particularly true for places that are planning to run public exhibitions and/or intending to keep using the machine regularly for a number of years. Basement cinemas and projector collectors are a different situation of course.  |  IP: Logged

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