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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 07-18-2004 01:25 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Will Kutler said:
I disagree with Brad concerning aluminum rollers.
Well, you did work for Century, right? They love those things there. I had a tour of a Century theater a few years back and they had one of them in each brain, and the prints were still all very staticy. The manager swore up and down that they helped, but to me it looked like they were trying to piss on a forest fire to put it out.

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Dominic Espinosa
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 - posted 07-18-2004 04:27 PM      Profile for Dominic Espinosa   Email Dominic Espinosa   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Plus, aluminum rollers are soooo much easier to clean, especially when some idiot has gooped Lubriplate all over everything!
I hope you hog tie (using leader tape or a good sturdy rope) anyone who thinks greasing rollers is a good idea...

I've spent the last month cleaning the brains at my theater, prior to my hire the projectionists greased all the brains and some of the takeup clusters (we have a3w's) with SuperLube...Although some had much older grease which was hard as a rock in some areas. What a mess it was.

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Brad Miller
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I think that's the one thing Will and I agree on. When new platters arrive at a location, the very first thing that should be done is the Lubriplate tubes located and then taken IMMEDIATELY to your vehicle for disposal at your home/hotel room. You don't even want to toss them at the construction site, because someone might pull them out of there and use it! Lubriplate is evil.

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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 07-18-2004 08:35 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So, what actually "went wrong" with Lubriplate? I mean, is it a product that works OK for some kinds of lubrication and just is really bad for moving parts like in projectors? Or is it 100% always bad in every situation? Why do some manufacturers recommend, etc.?

Is it just a case of a company marketting a substandard product, or is the picture more complicated?

--jhawk

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Peter Schoell
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I used to have a couple of CFS platters that did the same thing a 2 or 3 times a year. Like John said, you have to watch the timing. For some reason the vari-ac on my platters would always get out of adjustment and sometimes the motors too.
Too often when one platter is turning too fast the speed will be corrected by creating more pressure between the disc and the motor, this will take its toll on the motor bearings.
The timing procedure is outlined in the manual. Basically you need to loosen the center motor to a point where its just making contact with the disc and the disc will turn when the yo-yo is in the setup position. Then adjust the vari-ac to a point where the platter turns about 27 rpm ( I usually shoot for 6 or 7 rpm in 15 seconds).
The final step is to adjust the top and bottom discs so their speed matches the center one.
I fixed the whole problem by replacing the CFS's with Strongs.

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Ken Layton
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Lubriplate is great for certain applications, but not in the projection booth.

Lubriplate is the lubricant of choice in the coin operated machine industry. I use it all the time on coin chutes in pinball/video games and sliding lock linkages in payphones.

Lubriplate was actually recommended in Rowe & Rockola jukeboxes and Automatic Products "Smokeshop" cigarette machines.

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