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Nicholas Simmons
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I have had similar problems with AW3's (no springs). I sometimes use the aluminum antistatic rollers to determine if the outter brain rollers are at fault, since the amuminum ones are not likely to get warped or bent. On another note, is there a correct way to adjust the height of the brain rollers? Could that maybe help?

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Brad Miller
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The height? Are you referring to the occasional instance where the film isn't passing through the stripper rollers dead centered? If so, washers below the shafts to the rollers works and is a one time fix. That won't have any bearing on a bouncy payout, although if the rollers don't fit squarely together a thin washer below one of the shafts (obviously as needed) works well.

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Cory Isemann
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I was having sag problems and I just mounted an interlock roller to the wall. Seems to be working so far.

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Dominic Espinosa
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quote: Brad Miller
The height? Are you referring to the occasional instance where the film isn't passing through the stripper rollers dead centered? If so, washers below the shafts to the rollers works and is a one time fix.
I assume this is becuase of years of use the rollers have worn down and need to be replaced?

We have a few that are causing scratches oposite the soundtrack because of low riding rollers. I've spaced them with washers and it's better but I'm thinking we may need to do something a bit more permenant.

Also, in our big house all 3 brains (AW3 with stationary center feeds) have skinnier stripper guides. They've barely got a "ledge" like every other one I've seen. Are these new or something?
Incidentally the big house never scratches prints like the other ones do and I think those have a direct relation to it.

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Aaron Sisemore
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quote: Dominic Espinosa
Also, in our big house all 3 brains (AW3 with stationary center feeds) have skinnier stripper guides. They've barely got a "ledge" like every other one I've seen. Are these new or something?
Those are the really old ones. The newer ones have the thicker 'ledge' and the newest ones have the bevel on the inside part of the 'ledge'.

-Aaron

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Dominic Espinosa
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Anybody know why they changed it? It seems like the older ones don't get as dirty so easy or damage the film as easy. What gives?

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Louis Bornwasser
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At Christie, designs change with the seasons. There is no "Why?"

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Dominic Espinosa
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I've been tweaking roller heights and stuff for months trying to get everything perfect, on some it seams like the rollers have had to come up quite a bit to quit scratching the edges of prints.

So far I think I'm doing a lot better though. Is there some secret I'm missing?

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Brad Miller
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First, split them apart as much as the movement will allow (it's not much, but plenty). Second, unless you have an actual burr or are using the old skinny posts from the 70's era, the scratching is not coming from those posts. Look elsewhere.

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