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Richard Fowler
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 - posted 08-10-2004 02:20 PM      Profile for Richard Fowler   Email Richard Fowler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Also check the film roller past the sound drum...if this has too much play it will pull the film out of alinement.

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Josh Jones
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 - posted 08-12-2004 01:47 AM      Profile for Josh Jones   Author's Homepage   Email Josh Jones   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just a note on looking at buzz on an analizer. Shutter noise would show up at 48 Hz, Buzztrack issues would be at 96Hz and if it is a buzz, you are actually hearing a square wave, which produces lots of harmonics, so you will also see signal at 192, 288, 384, 480, and so on. the amplitude of the spikes should also decrease per octave.

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Michael Schaffer
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A square wave contains only odd harmonics, so in that case, there should (theoretically) be only 96, 288, 480, 672Hz etc. But like I said, that`s not the problem here. I tried the tips about running the motor without film, isolating the reader from stray light, and checking the belt condition, but unfortunately, so far none of these has proven to be the problem [Frown]
But I will check everything again. Maybe it turns out to be something simple that I overlooked.

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Was the noise still there when you did all of the above? Are you sure it's even a problem with the soundhead?

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Michael Schaffer
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Yes, it was, but only with film running. As the next step, I will check the participating modules in the sound processor (USL JS series), and the wiring. The sound is only very faint and I could only just hear it when I routinely checked the sound head alignment. Almost no one hears it - but that doesn't count, it has to be hunted down!

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Dennis M Dow Jr
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Michael
If it the USL JS series see if the bypass button on the format card is pushed in.... I had a problem with low buzz when bypass was on... bad grounding done during installation

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