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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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If you want the door to close that slow, you have to be careful about which door closer you use, since most will bleed off all of their pressure by the time it closes causing the door to latch loudly.

Closing the door slow isn't going to prevent a head on injury anyway since the door would be in the first ~15 degrees of motion, only in motion for a second or two at most.

Just look at all the sim rides which have signs, lines on the floor, and audio/visual warnings about the doors moving by themselves.

An usher should be going in just before the show starts to kick out all the noisy people anyway. They can close the door on their way out.

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Brad Miller
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quote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea
An usher should be going in just before the show starts to kick out all the noisy people anyway.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! That's a good one. And of course customers shouldn't ever be rude either. [Razz]

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Funny AND part of your job if you work for me. [Smile]

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Brad Miller
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But what if I am working for you and I go to close the door and as it is closing someone comes racing through it and bashes the door against my head? Should I sue?

Doors are clearly too dangerous to be in a theater.

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Of course not. That'd be a workplace injury and you'd have to claim workers' comp.

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Steve Kraus
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But think of all those minimum wage minutes you save in a large 'plex. Sort of like the radio controlled electric shopping cart pushers seen in the parking lots of Wal-Marts. That saves at least one employee, yes?

More to the point out in the real world anytime you can use mechanical means to substitute for the sort of courtesy and showmanship that ought to be common sense and simple for people to do one might as well do it because if there is one thing the "service economy" lacks it's good service.

Those things are rather pricey. My good idea would have remained an idea not worth the cost had I not had a whim to look at eBay and found a fellow who had them new-in-box for a fraction of the Grainger price. That was a couple years ago.

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Randy Stankey
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I've been to several "automated theaters" that have self-closing doors. I never thought it was a problem.

Biltmore Estate in North Carolina has two automated theaters. One is in the Welcome Center where people buy their tickets and find out about the history of the estate before they start their tours of the grounds. The second is in the Winery where people can see the P.R. video about what makes Bitlmore wine so special.

There's at least one automated theater at the World of Coca Cola Museum in Atlanta, GA. You get to see video about a lot of perky-looking people from all over the world who drink Coke.

If you go to the Corning Glass Works Museum in Corning, NY they have an automated theater that shows you all about how glass is made.

There is also one at the Springfield Armory in Springfield, MA. Here you get to see a video about the history of the armory from the days of Post-Revolutionary America through the present. This one is notable because it has a green LED display at the bottom of the screen which plays Open Captions of the words and action on the screen.

In every case, there is an electronic countdown timer above the door that shows how long before the next show is going to start. About 10 seconds before the show begins, a chime sounds, the lights dim and the doors slowly close. It takes at least 10 seconds for them to close. When the show is over, the lights come up, the doors open and people exit. The one in Springfield is the only one I've seen that's not on a timer. The show is started by the Park Ranger. It also has a "mushroom" panic button just inside the door. Since I had no reason to panic when I was there I don't know what it really does but I assume that it stops the show, brings the lights up to full and opens the doors.

The theater in Corning sucks because it has a backwards aspect ratio screen... 3:4 for video instead of the usual 4:3. The image is produced to fit the screen, I assume, so there's no cropping. It ALSO sucks because it's a roll-up screen that covers a 12 foot wide glass wall which looks out into the bright sunlit lobby. Before the movie starts, the screen rolls down (motorized, I assume) to cover the picture window. At the end of the movie, the music ends and WOOSH!! The screen rolls up to reveal a blinding light from the lobby! Talk about a "Blow-Off"!!

Not one of these theaters made me think about the possiblity of a customer walking into a moving door. I just assumed that even your average idiot knows (or should know) not to walk into a door. Like I said, the doors take at least 10-15 seconds to close. No, I never timed them! [Wink]

I do agree, however, that a door that closed too fast could cause a problem.

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