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Michael Schaffer
"Where is the
Boardwalk Hotel?"

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From: Boston, MA
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 - posted 09-16-2004 10:20 PM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
People know better than to mess with the Darylator.

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Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays

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From: Northampton, PA
Registered: Sep 1999


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quote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Uh, last I checked the standard silent aperture (in use from about 1899 to the late 20's) used the full frame.
Maybe they were different in Canada. While the American silent aperture, at .906 x .680 (nom.), indeed encompassed a larger surface area than CS, it did not use the full available frame. CS, at .839 x .715 with an optical soundtrack, however, does/did.
quote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Odd that it took over 10 hours for someone to call me on it though.
I just got home, and noticed it as soon as I read it.

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Film God

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From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from)
Registered: Jun 2002


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Nope, I'm just plain wrong again. I wish Thursday never happened. I don't think I said a single intelligent thing all day. [Frown]

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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!

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 - posted 09-17-2004 12:35 AM      Profile for Paul Mayer   Author's Homepage   Email Paul Mayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, I have seen many TohoScope films in a theatre... [Big Grin]

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Bill Langfield
Master Film Handler

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From: Prospect, NSW, Australia
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 09-19-2004 02:37 PM      Profile for Bill Langfield   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Langfield   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John,

quote: John Wilson
I almost agree with you about going into the feature, but I prefer a change-over than a turret change.

I'd like that too, but you cant have 2 projectors for EVERY screen, it was ok in the days of twin cinemas. However Gezz, the turrets only take 1.7 seconds to turn, the black out is a nice way of saying the bullshit is over (slides/ads/trls) NOW here's the MOVIE

Bill.

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Ian Joseph Parfrey
Film Handler

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From: Bollier Queensland Australia
Registered: Sep 2004


 - posted 09-20-2004 05:43 PM      Profile for Ian Joseph Parfrey   Email Ian Joseph Parfrey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Scope is great.
70mm is better [thumbsup]
THATS when the bullshit stops!

"I love the smell of oxide-shedding in the morning"

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Bill Langfield
Master Film Handler

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From: Prospect, NSW, Australia
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quote:
Scope is great.
70mm is better
THATS when the bullshit stops!

Oh boy, IAN do I AGREE.

So what 70mm films have you been running/ran lately?

The last 70mm we had was Titanic. (before that it was 2001, I think that one is over forever) [Frown]

We were going to run 'It's Mad Mad Mad World', the ratio was some weird shit, and required a special lens, so they opted out.(Yes JOHN, cheap asses)

Problem is it's all DTS only now, with two players set up in tandem, AND a dvd player running (for sound) in case of a sound drop out. (keeping them in sync is another matter)

When we have 70mm, we have two projectionist's on, and I make a point of sitting in the theatre for a few minutes to 'take in how good it looks'.

However I think the general public, can't tell the difference.

It's like the sound. Believe me, more cinema's are running in SR rather than SRD
(because the error rates suck)and no one says a word.
EDIT: Opps, ignore the ABOVE line, Cp500's are cool, Da20's suck.

Bill.

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Ian Joseph Parfrey
Film Handler

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From: Bollier Queensland Australia
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Hi Bill.

It's been a long time between 70mm drinks, I'm afraid.
The last 70mm I ran was at the Village Centre Bourke St Melbourne.
And that was a 35mm blow up......The film?....A class bit of R rated Stallone called "Cobra". Man, what a waste!!
We had heaps of problems with the audio on that thing. If I remember rightly, the techo's thought it was the original encoding. It had a completely different recording system to anything else. Wasn't Dolby or Ultra Stereo but something different, can't remember the name.... might have been "Eagle Stereo". Anybody know what it was?

Compared to the likes of "Baraka" or "Hamlet", both SHOT in 65mm and screened in 70mm, that "Cobra" didn't stand a chance.
How did "Titanic" look? That was a Super 35 blow up, interesting to hear about the pic quality.
Totally agree with your sentiment about the public not noticing the difference. Is that because they haven't seen proper 70 too often?
At MIFF this year, we had a few probs with the error rates on SR.D. mainly due to chunks of emulsion ripped from the sprocket area from previous screenings. Blokes I have spoken to seem to think the error rates are higher on basement readers than the Dolby penthouses.
A cinema with a good speaker system and a properly aligned A chain can compare very favourably with SR.D. Mainly the ground noise that gives the game away, scratches, clicks and pops- that sort of thing.

I miss my Starlet! Come back, all is forgiven! [Big Grin]

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Per Hauberg
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Malling, Denmark
Registered: Jul 2000


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70mm lately ?????
Oh, God - it was 1999 last time: BARAKA (real thing) and OUT OF AFRICA (1:85 blow up, but beautiful) both prints quite worn, I'm afraid. The gear is still here, though. Only trouble is that every danish distributor is named Scrooge for second name.

Before those very last two, it was the restored SPARTACUS - something for the eye, but my CP65 had trouble making this one sound as great as the two old ones mentioned. (Shouldn't it be possible, even on a 65 ? Or is 70mmSR impossible on the small box) Before that, it was them all every second year as repertoire, until the prints were worn ut. Maybe one ught to do a list someday for the REEL THING ERA of Malling 1974-1999.
-Normally we had only one 70mm print of each available title in Denmark. Things fade - Just imagine, what a standard 2004 audience would do, if You closed the curtain after a couple of trailers and gave them a 3-4 minutes overture. STAMP, -they would ! - STAMP !
Those were the days - next step will be [dlp] [bs] [puke] - or maybe retirement as an option.

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