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Steve Guttag
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I've also yet to see the Christie out light the Strong too (since we all have to chime in our standard lines here).

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Mark the christie also has an excessivly high colour temperature as well and if one filters its output to SMPTE spec (which is what prints are timed to) then the loss of light negates any gains

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Yes a bit colder color temp, perhaps 150 to 200 deg. lower than normal which is not that much lower. Its very close in color temp to the Kinoton glass reflectors that I've measured. That slightly colder color temp also causes less heating of the film, less flutter of the film in the gate and a resulting sharper image. Thats is one thing which is not "apparent" but real!

I will chime in too and say that you will find more Christie Lamphouses/consoles than any other brand in Hollywoods finest venues.

Mark

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Steve Guttag
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Without a doubt...on a wattage by wattage basis...Christie heats up the gate and lens more than either Strong or Kinoton. Kionton is definately the coolest, then Strong...Christie is significantly hotter. Just run some Schneider film Mark on a Christie...do the same on a Strong...note the difference.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Steve Guttag
Just run some Schneider film Mark on a Christie...do the same on a Strong...note the difference.

I have Steve.... The Christie wins by three lengths!..... Yawn.....

Mark

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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Only if you are trying to blister the film... :sizzle:

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Matt Zeiner
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quote: Steve Guttag
Without a doubt...on a wattage by wattage basis...Christie heats up the gate and lens more than either Strong or Kinoton. Kionton is definately the coolest, then Strong...Christie is significantly hotter. Just run some Schneider film Mark on a Christie...do the same on a Strong...note the difference.


...uninvited to the brawl, but here I am. Agreed with Steve on that.

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Steve Guttag
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[eyes]

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Richard Fowler
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Meow....hisss....hiss...nice cat fight [Wink] I think I am the only reply that has worked with both the 80's and the ZX8000. [beer]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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[Roll Eyes]

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Gordon McLeod
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Richard I have worked with most of if not all the cinemecanica lamphouses as well as strong and many other makes of strainge parentage as well [Smile]

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Matt Zeiner
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Me too...

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