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Ron Yost
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It's not an urban legend, Michael. I remember seeing a couple of accounts of holdout Japanese soldiers emerging from the jungle on TV once in a while, way back when. I actually Googled it and came up with:

Japanese Holdouts Registry

Apparently the last confirmed one was found in Indonesia in 1974. I didn't read the entire page, tho.

Ron Yost .. I swear, one can find ANYTHING on the Net. [Big Grin]

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Michael Schaffer
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Boardwalk Hotel?"

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Sometimes life outruns anything you could imagine in a movie script or novel!
On the Dia-Anbaugerät thing, I remember seeing 2 or 3 of these on old projectors in Germany, but they hadn't been used for many years then.

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Bernard Tonks
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Further to Stephen’s last post.

I well remember cinema advertising 3.25” slides which were also common in variety theatres until the 1950’s. Most music halls had two spotlights plus a slide lantern situated in a pit at the front of the huge raked upper circle known as ‘the gods’. The slides were shown during the interval onto the safety curtain. The carbons at the old Hippodrome Theatre in Aldershot used to hiss and spit which you would put up with for the sixpence old money admission. The low intensity carbon (I assume) fumes escaping with all the cigarette smoke into the dome.

One old 1912 built cinema I worked in, the Premier slide lantern was attached to the ‘non-operating’ side of No 2 projector, it did however have its own lamp house which was power shared from the same rectifier. The twin slide carriage was vertical mounted due to restricted space and for ease of operation.

During the late 1940’s at the Regal (ABC) in Kingston-upon-Thames, there was always the traditional annual organ 15 minute plus ‘Sing-A-Long’ show for one week before the feature on the evening shows. You can imagine the atmosphere in this always packed out 2,500 seat cinema. Clifford Birchill, the resident organist was extremely artistic and wrote his own slides that included characters and drawings with colour dyes which were most professional. With the quick changes on the ‘bi-unial’ as Stephen describes, three projectionists were required, one to feed the carbons, one to feed the slides, and one to load and show the slides, which could have well exceeded 100. There were two additional projectionists for the spotlight, and for the Strand lighting board situated on the stage.

My old cinema until closure in 2002 used two slide projectors every show daily for ‘decorative’ use on the curtains and for captions and announcements. Pictures can be seen in the Warehouse under the Singles section – Regal Cinema, Cranleigh, Surrey, England.

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Hugh McCullough
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 - posted 01-06-2005 07:40 AM      Profile for Hugh McCullough   Author's Homepage   Email Hugh McCullough   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Michael Schaffer said
quote: Michael Schaffer
No, I thought it was a really
funny line.

Do you mean the John Cleese line or your line about
myself and the war?
I find John Cleese to be a very talanted, clever,and funny. I have
no trouble at all with his remarks about the war.
What I do object to is you making remarks about myself and the war
that were uncalled for.
As for your remark that, and I quote, "even with serious subjects
in a relaxed way is something that you could profit from too" could
be construed as a personal attack, especially as you know very
little about me.

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Bernard Tonks
We only used slides for the sing along ABC Minors song on saturday morning kids shows, and for projecting car registration numbers supplied by the Police of any vehicle illigally parked, or parked without side lights turned on.
I imagine that you could have fun with that arrangement on April Fool's Day! [Big Grin]

That reminds me of 1 April last year, doing my weekly shop in Tesco on the way home from work. There was a Tannoy announcement: 'Would the owner of a green Vauxhall Cavalier, registration no. X123 ABC, please come to the customer service desk. I'm afraid a 40-ton lorry just reversed into it in the car park and we need you to exchange insurance details.'

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William Hooper
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quote: Bernard Tonks
My old cinema until closure in 2002 used two slide projectors every show daily for ‘decorative’ use on the curtains and for captions and announcements. Pictures can be seen in the Warehouse under the Singles section – Regal Cinema, Cranleigh, Surrey, England.
Excellent photos & beautiful theatre. Were the curain slides animated or static?

quote: Leo Enticknap
There was a Tannoy announcement
Leo, probably only .008% of non-UK readers know what a Tannoy announcement is!

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Bernard Tonks
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William,

The ‘decorative’ slides were static, being 3/16 inch in thickness decorative safety plate glass as used for bathrooms, kitchens, offices etc. Cut to the American standard slide size of 4 ¼” x 3 ¼” projected through an eight section colour wheel revolving at 1 rpm. We had a good ten different designs that were very effective even with full houselights up, naming them as they looked for example, diamonds, honeycomb, bubbles, stars etc.

Leo,

Your ‘quote’ was Hugh McCullough’s, not mine you will find.

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John Hawkinson
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Wow. Sorry for the abysmal delay.

Back on January 3rd, I said, "One of our Bauer U4s has such a device." and Stephen asked, "John, any chance of posting a picture of this thing?"

Here we go. Sorry the pictures are crap.

This is a view from the left side of the machine; you can see the Bauer Selekton II 16mm attachment and its upper reel arm sticking out on the left; the 35mm reel arm for the U4 is cropped out, but the bototm is visible at the top center:
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Oh, the circle underneath the lens element in the middle is a viewing window into the inside of the U4. It's not part of the slide optics. A bit more clear here, where we zoom in a bit:

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There's very little space between the front and the window glass, and I didn't want to hang in the air on the other side of the glass, so this is somewhat distorted, but it is a view from the front, looking back at the projector:

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And lastly, here's a view of the apparatus from behind the projector (you can see the entire 35mm upper reel arm here):

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--jhawk

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