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Rick Long
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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 - posted 03-15-2005 03:23 AM      Profile for Rick Long   Email Rick Long   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It is possible for the projector head to run below speed if the bottom nut on the vertical shaft is not tightened securley.

A quick test to see if this is the problem, thread a loop through the projector and soundhead, leaving a large loop between the projector and soundhead.

Run the machine and see if this loop gets smaller in size.

I had this happen once on a 5-star /1050 combination. It is necessary to remove the vertical shaft to correct this problem.

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System Notices
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It has been 1443 days since the last post.


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Eric Robinson
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While doing some belt research, I noticed the 5 Star manual has a table which shows which belt and pulley combinations you need depending on various motor speeds.

The motor speeds are: 1000, 1200, 1500, 1750, 1800

I am wondering why different speed motors are employed?
Why not just use one motor speed?

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Monte L Fullmer
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Prob due to different line frequencies and voltages that is around the world. Also, for different types of motor applications.

I've seen induction motors used on 5 stars.

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John Walsh
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Sync motors for interlocking was an 'optional' motor

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Louis Bornwasser
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1750 more or less in USA; 1800 for 60Hz sysnc.

1500 is 50Hz sync Louis

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Gordon McLeod
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Both Western Electric and RCA often used 1200 for there sync systems in the past for 60Hz mains

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Robert Minichino
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1000 and 1200 RPM are 50 and 60 Hz synchronous 6 pole motor speeds, 1500 and 1800 are 50 and 60 Hz 4 pole synchronous motor speeds, and 1750 is 60 Hz 4 pole induction motor speed.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Of course knowing Wrong's rediclous parts pricing of recently it may very well be less expensive to just use a three phase motor and vari-speed drive unit!

Mark

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Eric Robinson
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Thanks, I always learn something new here.

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Jim Cassedy
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quote: Stephen Frazza
I pretty much took the whole projector apart- I replaced every bearing in it, I replaced the belts, I even replaced the pulleys.
I beleive the technical term for this is a "projectorectomy" [Big Grin]

(not to be confused with a projectoroscopy, which we won't go into here)

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Randy Bowden
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I had a theatre with this same problem recently. The projector head was not running as smooth and quiet as it should, so I replaced the intermittent, Problem solved. Sometimes projector head problems can manifest symptoms in the soundhead.

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