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Topic: What happened to 2 reels per movie cans?
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Stephen Furley
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From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
Registered: May 2002
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posted 02-14-2005 06:20 PM
The one time I handled a 70mm print, well over twenty years ago, it came pretty much like the one in your picture. What size are those cases and spools? They look like they might me slightly smaller than the ones I've seen, but it's difficult to judge from the picture. I saw some similar ones at Bradford a few years ago.
I've seen similar cases used for transporting 3-D and I think Cinerama, 35mm prints on large reels, but normal 35mm always comes on cores. I've seen prints come in from other countries in all sorts of odd ways, from Iran, loose rolls on cores, no cans or even bags, in a rough, dusty cardboard box and from Russia in 1000 foot rolls, several of which were in a circular can which looked like it would have been more at home holdiing a cake, for example.
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Stephen Furley
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From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
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posted 02-28-2005 01:49 PM
I wrote, about the cases that prints are transported in here in the UK:
quote: Stephen Furley I'll take a picture of one of these next time I do a projection shift.
Took some pictures last night, processed the film at about 3 a.m. just scanned a few frames.
this is one of the blue plastic cases from Moving Print Distribution:


Note the plastic buckle on the strap, and the carrying handle.
Here is the same case open:

This case contains six cans of 'Finding Nemo'. As you can see, five cans is the minimum that would be held in place by the lid. The most I've had is eight cans. The thick wired (rodded?) edges can be seen better in this view, as can the two carrying handles on opposite sides.
This is the very similar red case from Delux Film Services:

This case contains seven cans. The main difference, apart from the colour, is the pocket for the label. The MPD case has a thin plastic pocket on top, which can be seen in the first picture. It can be difficult to get the label in and out. Also, if you have a pile of cases, you can only see the label on the top one. The DFS case has a stronger holder, made from the same material as the case itself, on the side, as seen here:

The label is reversed for return:

Pile them up as high as you like, and you can still read the label.
Most prints are now arriving in these cases, but the odd one still turns up in he old-style cardboard box:

These were usually sed only once, so you got a new one each time, except when you got a print on a crossover, in which case it could be quite tatty, sometimes with more tape than box.
Most of the cans we see here are utter crap. Here is a typical example:

This is the bottom of a can. I didn't break it, that's the state it came in, and this is not unusual. I just inserted the core to hold the broken part up so it could be seen better. Some cans are of better quality; the ones the British Film Institute uses are amongst the better ones. The old-style metal cans are seldom used now. They tend to get dented, which makes the lid very difficult to remove.
This is the other problem with these cans:
(Image removed, because the system won't let me insert that many)
This isn't the can that this film came in; I put it in a blue one so it would show up better in the picture. The can is the same size as the one it came in. This reel is slightly less than two thousand feet, it's on a three inch core. Spot the problem. Is it any wonder that the cans get in the state they do, with the film being thrown about inside them? Of course, the problem has got worse since polyester came in. Suggestions: put a spigot in the can to hold the core in place. If you can't do that, either start using much larger cores, or put more film on each roll. I'm pretty sure you could get three thousand feet in a can.
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