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Author Topic: Aviator intermission Jim Ziegler Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 753 From: West Hollywood, CA Registered: Jul 99 posted 03-13-2005 04:15 PM                     quote: Bill Langfield "Im not in it for the money or bonuses, I'm in for my company and bosses to make money, as much money as they can, THANKS to me" GREAT - Go MIKE. You know Bill, if you are looking for the big bucks, you are in the wrong business. Most of us here do the best job we can, not in search of a bonus, but because we take pride in what we do and we want to have the best operation we can.  |  IP: Logged Steve Pike Film Handler Posts: 8 From: UK Registered: Feb 2005 posted 03-13-2005 04:22 PM                       many thanks for all your responses - thanks Mike Baer for the reel 4 info. erm - previous projectionists have attempted to overload the reels by about an inch - however this did not work and we were forced to include an intermission - this was for Titanic. As we are a small single screen cinema - we close the sweet kiosk and bar area as soon as the main feature has started, so do not gain extra income from any intermission.  |  IP: Logged Mike Spaeth Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1129 From: Marietta, GA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 03-13-2005 04:23 PM                        P&L's are one of the better ways to objectively judge a manager's performance. By looking at a P&L, you can easily tell who the manager is that is cutting corners everywhere, in search of a bonus ... but you can also tell who makes smart decisions in the running of his building (not a free-spender, not a penny-pincher). I know that's one of the ways I evaluate my management at each of my locations. The other big things are blind check scores and customer comment cards received.  |  IP: Logged Per Hauberg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 883 From: Malling, Denmark Registered: Jul 2000 posted 03-13-2005 04:50 PM                        quote: Bill Langfield More revenue for your theatre, does that equate to more in your pocket? Should'nt we just say, Bill have had a very unpleasant day, and wants to hit and shout at anybody around ? More revenue MIGHT mean, that the theatre lives - Even, - if the revenue is very good, that it can afford Your salary, so that the boss' right hand will not have to do that during his lunchbreak. (Belive me, those minkeys can be trained for more than You think.) AND - if not talking about money: Here, I can see audience beginning to run out for toilet after just a bit over two hours. An intermission may be rough, if not decently placed, but rather one organised break than 50-100 persons walking up and down the floor individually. Now keep up the good mood - even if Your head hurts, -and see to, Your cinema survives - even if You would be the first to blaim the manager - and him only - if the place has to close and You will be without a job. Per  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-13-2005 04:53 PM                     The cinemecanic tower will tollerate a bit of an overload but the end of the rewind function can get messy then  |  IP: Logged Will Kutler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1506 From: Tucson, AZ, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 03-13-2005 04:59 PM                     Here is a long shot.... It looks like there might be enough clearance on those towers/reels for a local welding shop to cleanly attach some reel diameter extension guides (sheet metal strips butt welded to the diameter with reinforcing doubler plate? Cheers K  |  IP: Logged Kevin Markwick Film Handler Posts: 43 From: Uckfield East Sussex England Registered: Sep 2004 posted 03-13-2005 05:24 PM                        You should get the whole of The Aviator on a 15,000ft spool. It might be an inch or two over the top, but if you keep any eye on the take up tension it should be fine. The 15,000ft capacity was designated in the acetate days, polyester prints are thinner. Result, more film on a spool. Hurrah! I'm sure some of the uber brains here could work out the maths. Added after brain clicked into gear: My mistake, they are 13000ft spools, same applies though. Load her up! Cheers.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-13-2005 07:28 PM                     Steve, please do not link to pics pertaining to the discussion. Instead UPLOAD them to this server. That way the integrity of the archives is not destroyed when the outside website shuts down or changes it's links. The Aviator will not fit on a Goldberg platter reel without spilling over the edges just a tad...and that's without trailers. Odds are his tower has the same size reel capacity as a platter reel.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-13-2005 09:24 PM                        Putting an intermission where none belongs (unless required by technical issues) is just wrong, P&L be damned.  |  IP: Logged Bill Langfield Master Film Handler Posts: 280 From: Prospect, NSW, Australia Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-14-2005 05:27 AM                        Jim, Did NOT say I am no LONGER in management. I now simply push the on/off button on the projector. You seem to be lost on my reason. I was sick of being the magager/projectionist/ticket seller/ candy seller/cleaner. Clearly you above all that. I GUESS you are a General Manager. Bet I got that SPOT on. (ie Do all of the above but NOT REALLY) I was doing the job of FIVE people and not getting a cent extra. You fugure the numbers. I'm not out to make mega bucks, I'm just after a fair deal. The point you seem to missing is that every DOLLAR you save going those ABOVE you. So Im thinking you want to move up to that postion where you look down at us low lifes in projection, floor, candy & local management. Bill. Bill.  |  IP: Logged Mark Hajducki Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 500 From: Edinburgh, UK Registered: May 2003 posted 03-14-2005 05:55 AM                     quote: Kevin Markwick You should get the whole of The Aviator on a 15,000ft spool. It might be an inch or two over the top, but if you keep any eye on the take up tension it should be fine. Unfortunately the reels on Westrex Towers are 12,000ft of acetate (13k of polyester) I have heard of sites extending the reels size by using beermats etc stuck onto the side, however there is a risk associated with doing this.  |  IP: Logged Jim Ziegler Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 753 From: West Hollywood, CA Registered: Jul 99 posted 03-14-2005 02:23 PM                     Yep Bill.. I am a GM.. And, yep, frequently, I do have to fill in on staff positions when business is slow.. I also fix projectors and poppers, which saves my theatre a ton of money. Why? Because its my job and what I am paid (quite well, thank you) to do. Think about it this way Bill, yes, the company reaps more of a benefit from my labor than I do. However, at the same time, the company has more on the line in the form of a multi-million dollar investment in the theatre, than I do. Without the company having made that investment, I would not have a job. Such is the way of the world Bill. If you object, start your own theatre and run it the way you want to. quote: Bill Langfield So Im thinking you want to move up to that postion where you look down at us low lifes in projection, floor, candy & local management. You must have a very negative relationship with your home office.. From your attitude, I can see why.  |  IP: Logged Hugh McCullough Expert Film Handler Posts: 147 From: Old Coulsdon, Surrey, UK Registered: Jan 2003 posted 03-15-2005 06:02 PM                        It is possible to get a film the length of Avaitor on a Westrex Tower spool without adding any more extra bits to the spool edges. You can do one of two things. 1. Change the 10inch spool hubs for smaller 8inch hubs. 2. Invest in a least two of the spools below. These have a diamater 2.5ins larger than the Grey Westar spools. 37.5ins against 35ins. You will have to increase the take up starting tension by about 20, but when up to speed can be adjusted back to the normal settings that you use. These spools can be purchased from Robert Rigby  |  IP: Logged

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