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Monte L Fullmer
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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
Registered: Nov 2004


 - posted 03-20-2005 10:32 PM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Greg Routenburg
So Jared my advice to you is keep asking these sorts of questions, you're probably helping a whole lot of others in much the same position as yourself.

Bravo! .. and this pertains to all of the ones who seek any kind of advice...and maybe we can build back this diminishing craft/trade that was once just about abolished due to the "new operating standards", that the BIG BROTHERS had set upon the world.

I've noticed that the forum membership head count is growing quite rapidly.....hmmmmm, definitely new potiental "students" who want to learn.

-Monte

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Jared Foley
Film Handler

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From: Madison, IL, USA
Registered: Feb 2005


 - posted 03-21-2005 03:12 AM      Profile for Jared Foley   Email Jared Foley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Not only am I a newbie, but I am a newbie with very very limited resources. I've never even heard of a "footage counter" until Gordon mentioned them. When I build a film all I have is my trusty Neumade splicer, aging equipment, and poor booth lighting conditions. I have no fancy shmancy new age technology - not even access to the internet.
Anyway, we did solve the problem afterall. I suppose my asst. manager is the only competent film handler in my workplace. :-

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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 03-21-2005 09:53 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
For a cheap poor-man's footage counter, you just need a piece of paper. Take some 17x23" construction paper (or whatever) and tape it down to the surface of your rewind bench. Then, lay a piece of film horizontally across it (perhaps tape it down temporarily) and color through the perforations with a sharpie (takes a few minutes). Remove the film, and then with a ruler, add a vertical line every 4 perfs, and a horizontal line above and below the perfs. Then just fill in frame numbers.

Now you have a poor man's footage counter. It's a bit annoying for measuring more than the width of your table, but it's way better than nothing, or slowly counting perfs! (You can make a mark witha sharpie inbetween perfs on the opposite-sound side every time you have to shift the film, if necessary.)

--jhawk

p.s.: Yes, a 1-gang sync block is the right answer. Barring that, a Neumade film measuring-machine -style counter. And after that, all sorts of home-made devices involving sprockets. But not everyone has these tools, but paper and ink are pretty damn universal!

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Jared Foley
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From: Madison, IL, USA
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 - posted 03-22-2005 03:19 AM      Profile for Jared Foley   Email Jared Foley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's not a bad idea... but that also reminds me of another problem I deal with: our rewind table is inoperable. It apparently hasn't worked since 2003. I thought of using an old leader tape that I have laying around. Good idea?

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 03-22-2005 11:12 AM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Get a spare spcoket and scribe it ever 4th sprocket tooth and mount it on a spindle with two rollers below and one has a cheap frame finder

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John Hawkinson
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Err, I don't follow your question, Jared. I said "rewind bench" but I could have said "MUT." The point is to do have paper wherever you want to count frames.

I guess, though, I'm not sure what you mean by "leader tape." If you mean the 1/4" audio tape reels with markings at 7.5" and 15", I'm not sure how those would help you out. Each perf is .187" inches from the next (we say 35mm print film has a perforation pitch of .187"), and that does not divide evenly into 7.5" or 15".

I suppose you could write on the leader tape, but I suspect you would find it harder to use, versus a piece of paper taped to the desk in front of you. But feel free to experiment [thumbsup] .

--jhawk

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Mark J. Marshall
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From: New Castle, DE, USA
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 - posted 03-23-2005 08:59 AM      Profile for Mark J. Marshall     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Things would be a lot easier in general if they would just print the frame lines.

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Jeremy Fuentes
Mmmm, Dr. Pepper!

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From: Corpus Christi, TX United States
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 - posted 03-23-2005 09:07 AM      Profile for Jeremy Fuentes   Email Jeremy Fuentes   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jhawk, I think he means just plain blue leader.

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