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Mark J. Marshall
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- posted 04-21-2005 10:19 PM      Profile for Mark J. Marshall     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Mike Blakesley
Dolby SRD is the Dolby digital track.
We've been through this a bazillion times... SR*D is a Dolby Digital track with an SR analog backup track. Dolby / Dolby SRD is redundant.

In fact, just saying "Dolby" is stupid since it could mean anything from Dolby A to Dolby SR to SRD to any number of things. Sounds like they're using "Dolby" as a generic term meaning "analog".

It would be nice for ETS to get their terminology straight.

[Roll Eyes]

As for Air Force One, I heard that they had a problem with a large number of their reel 1s where the picture wasn't steady. When they ran out of replacement reels they had to replace them with reel 1s from international versions of the prints. That could have led to some reel 1s having different sound formats.

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Emma Tomiak
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- posted 04-22-2005 02:41 AM      Profile for Emma Tomiak   Author's Homepage   Email Emma Tomiak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My print had a timecode on every reel.

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Darryl Spicer
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Time code on reel 2 and 3 only

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Steve Scott
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- posted 04-22-2005 08:57 AM      Profile for Steve Scott   Email Steve Scott   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What about this 'soft version' business? I assume this refers to the sound mix. [Confused]

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Mike Blakesley
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- posted 04-22-2005 12:43 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Mark J. Marshall
We've been through this a bazillion times... SR*D is a Dolby Digital track with an SR analog backup track. Dolby / Dolby SRD is redundant.
Okay-fine, but nobody is listening to you because you don't have a picture. [Big Grin]

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Bobby Henderson
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- posted 04-22-2005 01:09 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Alexander Smith
I was told, a long time ago when I started work as a projectionist that the term "Dolby SRD" is sufficient to specify that sound format (not "SR/SRD"), irrespective of the particulars of the equipment playing it back. Of course, DTS and SDDS don't have a 'back-up' system for when the digital part of the system fails, by definition they can't.
Yes, it is common knowledge "SR*D" covers both Dolby analog and digital formats. Still, just about any film print with Dolby Digital on it will have "SR/SRD" listed.

As to the claims DTS and SDDS don't have backup optical systems, actually they do. They're just rarely used. DTS used to have their "DTS Stereo" analog track. I seem to remember reading something about Sony coming up with their own take on the analog optical track thingie too. However, since just about every major release is quad format (and a growing number of smaller more "indie" films doing it as well) the Dolby SR branded optical track is more of a de-facto standard.

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Brad Miller
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- posted 04-22-2005 04:31 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Mike, who are you talking to??? Where did that quote come from? [Razz]

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Richard Fowler
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DTS stereo analog is still very alive and available for license for producers to use even if they do not plan to release a digital track [Razz]

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Brad Miller
Mike, who are you talking to???
I dunno, some faceless dude at the top of this page. [Big Grin]

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Brad Miller
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- posted 04-22-2005 07:33 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Oh, then you need to enable the "ignore people who don't have pictures" in your control panel. That way you won't even see their posts! [Cool]

(That feature has actually been requested by various people. haha)

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Mark J. Marshall
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I've sent a picture actually. I feel kinda left out that no one can pick on me in the "separated at birth" thread. I think Brad just doesn't like me. [Roll Eyes]

I considered posting a large version of my member photo in the "Post your random pictures" thread.

[Razz]

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Brad Miller
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- posted 04-22-2005 10:29 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Ah, so you did! Ok, maybe by the time you hit 1000 I will have gotten around to updating the member pics in queue.

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Dave Callaghan
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- posted 04-22-2005 11:15 PM      Profile for Dave Callaghan   Email Dave Callaghan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Steve Scott
What about this 'soft version' business? I assume this refers to the sound mix.
It refers to the running time. The Asian version is edited a few minutes longer, probably to include more graphic content.

According to IMDB, the running time is 95 minutes, except in the Philippines where the running time is 99 minutes.

I recall another instance of this recently. Quentin Tarantino intended to release a longer version of Kill Bill in Japan because that domestic audience is better prepared to tolerate the mayhem. Apparently that was also a reason why some of the scenes were in black and white instead of colour, to tone down the blood for the North American audience.

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Dominic Espinosa
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- posted 04-23-2005 05:52 AM      Profile for Dominic Espinosa   Email Dominic Espinosa   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As far as I know there's timecode on all reels of my print, however I'll check again. Every time I check the auditorium though it's in DTS.

I remember reading somewhere that SR-D is sufficient to identify an SR as well as SRD track since the SRD is the digital equivilant of the SR track.
Old manual or something, don't remember where I saw it.
I label my prints with SRD/SR as simply SR-D.

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Steve Scott
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Thanks Dave,

I heard the same explanation for the B&W in Kill Bill Vol. 1.

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