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Frank Dubrois
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Cleveland, OH
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 - posted 04-26-2005 01:50 PM      Profile for Frank Dubrois     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Repairing it...sure...FINDING it...well that another problem. Should I look for obvious burn marks?

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Frank Dubrois
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The lamphouse is a Strong Highlight IIA...in case anyone is still following this topic. I still havent found the problem.

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Rick Raskin
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From: Manassas Virginia
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If you have detailed schematics, and not those damned detached drawings that only show lines connecting boxes, it shouldn't be to difficult to locate the fault. First, determine what signal the c/o switch applies to the closing coil when you push it. Is it voltage or ground (earth)? For purposes of illustration, let's assume it switches a ground pulse to the coil. Take a clip lead, ground one end and then walk the ground from point to point until the coil operates. The open circuit is between the point that operated the coil and the previous one. Not knowing your specific setup I'd caution that if there are electronics along the path, you seek help from a qualified engineer. Good Luck.

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Bob Koch
Expert Film Handler

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From: williams ca
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Gordon;
You`re again guilty of believing of what they report unto you ; is true.

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Kevin Orman
Film Handler

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From: Sompting, Lancing, UK
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quote: Wolff King Morrow
Except most employees would get fired if they posted booth tours on the internet.
Err.. Would they? Why?

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Dan Bouvier
Film Handler

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From: Sylvan Lake, Alberta, Canada
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 - posted 04-28-2005 08:43 PM      Profile for Dan Bouvier   Email Dan Bouvier   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Kevin Orman
Err.. Would they? Why?
If you have any bad habits, you're broadcasting them for all to see. Including competitors, friends of the owner/managers, or tech people. Basically your post implies that whatever you're doing is the sworn policy of your company, which it may not be.

Take it from me!

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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 - posted 04-28-2005 08:56 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree Dan. The pic below is an example of a theatre that has poor management and/or a lazy staff to allow the equipment to be so dusty/dirty. IF I was the owner, I sure wouldn't like for those pics to be publically displayed. It makes one wonder how many other things they let go?

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Monte L Fullmer
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..true, I was wondering about this on the one pic with that box fan blowing in this processor/amp rack. That's massive insane!

-Monte

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Frank Dubrois
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Still driving me nuts!

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Frank Dubrois
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Cant find anything wrong here...what would the next step be in locating the problem? It sounds like possibly a board may have a break or crack or something...but how do I locate it?? If employees smelled something burning, and its related to this, what would most likely have burnt? A relay? PC board?

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Ken Layton
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Did you ever tell us the make & model of the automation unit in question?

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Gordon McLeod
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since this now appears to be beyond your depth call in your service engineer the advice has been provided several times by several people to trouble shoot the problem if you had the skills
at this point do the safe thing call in someone who does

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John Pytlak
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When others "smelled something burning" when equipment failed, the source of the problem is usually obvious. But without the skills to fix it, the solution may not be. Call your service engineer. Turn off the power if the burning smell persists or you see smoke.

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Frank Dubrois
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Perhaps I should stress that I am confident in my skills to repair or replace anything...troubleshooting has usually come pretty easy to me...but this problem eludes me. I'll try not to take these posts as a personal assualt on my skills. And for the record, the firm who installed our equiptment has been unable to find it as well, so I'm in good company. They suggested replacing parts with other units until I find the problematic board or relay. With some items, its ok to do that, but with electrical parts that apparently burned, I'm not quite as eager to swap them around. Thanks for the suggestions anyway.

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John Pytlak
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Sorry. It sounded like there was a risk of further damage, and you needed outside help. Obviously, if you find the burned component, you need to troubleshoot and fix whatever caused it to burn. If you have the skills to do that, go for it!

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