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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 06-06-2005 01:47 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What does the "Kinoton A-series" consist of? I don't see that package on their web site, etc.

--jhawk

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Paer Hoegberg
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 - posted 06-06-2005 02:08 PM      Profile for Paer Hoegberg   Email Paer Hoegberg   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A-series ARE on the website.

http://www.kinoton.com/cinema-projectors.htm

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John Hawkinson
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Thanks! I foolishly only looked at kinotonamerica.com.

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Richard Fowler
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 - posted 06-06-2005 03:06 PM      Profile for Richard Fowler   Email Richard Fowler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The basic differences in the "A" series is no motor invertor drive but a simple slo-start kit of electical components, less turret options, different drive motor set up, less expensive chassis work, simplified wire harness layout....Kinoton projection and sound quality in a basic package.

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Michael Schaffer
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 - posted 06-07-2005 01:52 AM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I believe you can get it with all turret/aperture changer options if you want, however, I got it with manual turret to save costs. But all the outputs needed to automatize the turret are there on the main board.
Additionally, you can get an OEM glass reflector instead of the original made by Balzer. The light output with the OEM reflector is very good and even too. The light output may be a little less than with the Balzer reflector, but I haven't had a chance yet to compare the two models side by side.
Then there is the option to get a power supply made in-house by Kinoton instead of the IREM models. It is a very solidly designed high reactance power supply with a 12-SCR block and a relay-controlled boost circuit. The only "catch" is that you can not dynamically adjust the current. You have to set taps.
Finally, there is a new platter model (FT3M) which has a take-off unit ("brain") with a mechanical control arm instead of the legendary optical sensors read by a hall sensor, smaller motors and only one take-up arm which also acts as failsafe. The steering is the same as the "big brother" ST200E, and it runs just as smoothly, that means no brainwraps, no tossed print and all that. It also recalibrates itself continuously, so no timing is needed. In addition to that there is a monitoring software which rocks massively because it shows you if all components are working properly.
The "tradeoff" is that the threading path is a little more complicated (but still fairly easy) and that you have to make sure that the system is properly levelled because the control arm is very sensitive.
All the key components, the mechanical design of the projector head, the intermittent, the deep lamphouse design, the rock-solid basement reader for A and D are virtually the same. It aligns very easily and gives you great and even light output on the screen and a very steady image. You have to look very hard to see the test film move at all on the screen.

They also have a new programmable automation called DMP1 which is available for all projector models and which holds up to 10 freely editable programs with up to 14 steps, time delays between steps, volume control in each step. It talks to the CP650 via a serial interface and the automations can be integrated into a network and remotely monitored/controlled with a PC. These are options however, you can also get the "basic" 3-cue automation CCA3 based on typical American automations.

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Jean-Michel Grin
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From: Geneva & Lausanne, Switzerland
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 - posted 06-09-2005 01:20 PM      Profile for Jean-Michel Grin   Author's Homepage   Email Jean-Michel Grin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Guys !

Thank Your for the nickname of "Wrong International" I'ts really funny and "true" in some case with these equipements, especially when You have to order some spare parts and You're receiving all false and tell a complaint to your dealer is more expensive as pay te bill for the wrong part that you just received :-D
An another problem is the automation system who's chrashe him itself when the xenon lamp is energised. Sometimes it's work fine and sometimes it's a projectionist's nightmare. I never found up the solution for this problem.
Another thing. On ours PR1050 we have a lot problems of oil leaking. It's seems a problem with theses projectors, but it was in the 90's the most affordable equipement for us.
It's like a French car: It's never have a breakdown, but anytime something goin' wrong ! ;-D (It's a joke...)
Finnaly for our new multiplexes in Italy and Switzerland, we switched to Cinemeccanica projection equipement. They are not the "top of the top" like Kinoton projector, but with the new curved film gate, the picture look steady.

Best regards at everyone and appologyses for my weak English !

Jean-Michel Grin

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 06-09-2005 02:03 PM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Jean-Michel Grin
On ours PR1050 we have a lot problems of oil leaking. It's seems a problem with theses projectors, but it was in the 90's the most affordable equipement for us.

I know how that one goes. I "tend" 24 PR-1050's with this "Simplex Syndrome" of leakage.

But the leakage can be contained in a majority of a sense if the leakage is coming from the input drive sprocket on the back, which means the main drive seal needs to be replaced (like a oil seal for a car), or is it leaking around the intermittent frame, which isn't sealed by any means-just metal to metal contact-which can be almost cured if one removed the intermittent assembly and completely dry both contacting surfaces of the oil.

Also, check your rear door gaskets, for they could be in need of replacement as well. And when replacing these gaskets (which is the surgicl tubing variety with earlier machinery) have both surfaces completely dry

Oil loves to follow oil....

good luck - Monte

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Scott Norwood
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 - posted 06-09-2005 02:11 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Is there any advantage to using a motor inverter when one doesn't need variable-speed capability?

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Richard Fowler
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Longer gear train life. In the installations we did on some Century projectors, service calls and gear replacement have become less; on reel to reel machines much less film pop problems.

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