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Paul Linfesty
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posted 06-13-2005 02:08 PM

Does anyone know if the New Beverly's (L.A.) upcoming double-feature of CREATURE and OUTER SPACE are polarized or anaglyphic?

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Jeff Joseph
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posted 06-13-2005 02:55 PM

Anaglyphic.

Universal does not have dual prints of either of these titles.

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Stephen Furley
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posted 06-13-2005 03:02 PM

quote: Jeff Joseph
Only TWO features were reissued in anaglyphic: Creature From the Black Lagoon and It Came From Outer Space.

Of those two I've only seen 'It Came from Outer Space'; It was a good print, about as good as you're likely to get with anaglyph. I've also seen 'Pardon my Backfire' in 35mm anaglyph, absolutely terrible print, and equally bad glasses. About the only worse thing I've seen was an 8mm print of the same film.

I've seem other films, but I can't remember which, we're talking about 25 years ago now. At least some, and possibly all, of the others were on 16mm.

If only the two titles you mention were re-released theatrically in this format, could others have been printed this way for television? There has been very occasional 3-D on television here, though it would obviously have to be after colour came in, which for regular broadcasting here was in 1967, I believe you had it rather earlier over there.

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Jeff Joseph
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posted 06-13-2005 03:23 PM

Oh, yes, some titles like Hondo, Gorilla at Large, some others were converted to anglyphic to television.

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Mark J. Marshall
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posted 06-13-2005 03:46 PM

Jeff, does Universal still have both negatives for each of those titles?

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Jeff Joseph
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posted 06-13-2005 04:05 PM

Presumably, they could be printed, yes.

We ran both titles at the Expo in dual system/Polaroid. Of course, we provided the prints.

Jeff

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Christian Appelt
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posted 06-13-2005 05:49 PM

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Only TWO features were reissued in anaglyphic: Creature From the Black Lagoon and It Came From Outer Space.[...] NO other "classic" 1950s 3-D features were ever released in that format.

Jeff,

I remember seeing REVENGE OF THE CREATURE in Germany in the 1980s, distributed by Cinema International Corporation. They reissued CREATURE 1+2 (even part 3 in flat b&w) and IT CAME FROM OUTER SPACE on Kodak stock, unfortunately all these 35+16mm prints have faded to an orange mishmash with only weak traces of green. This year I saw two screenings of old prints, and the stereoscopic effect was totally destroyed because the screen colors didn't match the glasses.

I have not seen any intact anaglyphic print for years except THE MASK (1961) with spliced-in anaglyphic sequences printed in two color Tech-IB.

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Wolff King Morrow
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posted 06-13-2005 08:10 PM

quote: Bobby Henderson
The polarizing method worked pretty well. Even though the movie kind of sucked, I still prize my old 3D glasses from "Friday the 13th Part III in 3D."

The movie did not "kind of suck", part 3 was awesome. I had a great time watching that in 3D back in 83. I still have 6 pairs of those glasses myself. Too bad they stopped using that format. The effect was stunning.

Little known fact: Of the Paramount Jason flicks, part 3 was the only one in widescreen due to the 3D over-under frame split. The other movies were all in flat format from what I remember.

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Darryl Spicer
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posted 06-13-2005 08:40 PM

quote: Wolff King Morrow
Little known fact: Of the Paramount Jason flicks, part 3 was the only one in widescreen due to the 3D over-under frame split. The other movies were all in flat format from what I remember.

Actually there were scope prints made for drive-ins. It was also the only one that did not have rain in it.

quote: Wolff King Morrow
back in 83.

Original release was in 1982. I have a theatrical poster for it some where I got back when I was working at the theater for a summer job. in 82.

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Mark J. Marshall
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posted 06-13-2005 09:51 PM

quote: Jeff Joseph
We ran both titles at the Expo in dual system/Polaroid.

And what a great show it was. [Big Grin]

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Wolff King Morrow
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posted 06-14-2005 02:47 AM

quote: Darryl Spicer
Original release was in 1982. I have a theatrical poster for it some where I got back when I was working at the theater for a summer job. in 82.

My mistake then. I guessed it was back in 83, but 82 sounds more likely. I was a little kid then, maybe 8 or 9 years old when I saw it.

Anyway, I have a "scope" version of the movie on DVD. I also have a VHS version with video-alternating 3D, where you have to wear glasses that hook into the VCR and time each eye shutter to the alternating images.

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Frank Angel
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posted 06-16-2005 12:23 AM

I have every one of those godaweful 3D-TV Corp. alternating frame/LCD shutter glasses titles, and their maddening, cropped copies of the HOUSE OF WAX and DIAL M FOR MURDER. These were copies that looked like someone shot them using a $500 VHS camcorder. But bless our two eyes, the 3D effect was there and with excellent depth too, if it weren't totally marred by the horrible resolution of the copies and the fact that for whatever insane reason, the bottom half of the picture was blacked out, with the picture off-center vertically, sitting in the top 2/3rds of the screen. But still, to have THE HOUSE OF WAX in actual 3D, projecting an 8ft picture, hell, it still gives me goosebumps.

The downside with the alternating frame (sequential is it called?) system is that there is a noticeable flicker in the image, at least there is with this company's system. But then again, I have never seen this system pushed to as good as it can be. Maybe a really top-draw transfer wouldn't have as much flicker (you know, a Certified, THX 3D HD-DVD transfer -- who knows how good they could get it). Besides, the flicker didn't bother me all that much; I can just about stand anything if it gets me to see 3D! (except anaglyphic [puke]

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If only someone would release all the original 3D classics on DVD in that format for home use. Perhaps now that this slew of Dementionalzed 3D stuff comes down the pike, they will no doubt want to expand their profit potential by releasing same to DVD. If they do that, then they will HAVE to do it with the shutter glasses; they can't release them in 2D....all the pazazz would be gone. Oh, I forgot, these will all be retreads, so without the added 3D, they will just be the same DVDs everyone already has. [Roll Eyes]

So to get us to spend our money yet once again on the same titles, they have no choice but to offer the DVDs in 3D. Now for THAT, I will run out to buy then all again lickity-split. And once STAR WARS I, II, III, IV, V, and VI, plus TITANIC and THE ABYSS et al, come out in 3D DVD, and everyone has already gone out and purchased the shutter glasses, then it would only make sense for every studio that ever released a 3D title to cash in and make sequential 3D DVDs of them as well. Ah, hope springs eternal.

And I promise, if they did that...if they released the original 3D titles and gave me back the 3D movies of my youth so I could play them for my kids, I promise, I would never ever say another nasty, sarcastic thing about any Hollywood studio again....except maybe Disney.

[Big Grin]

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