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Author Topic: Film Gloves - Latex or Cloth Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-12-2005 01:45 PM                        LIPID FATS....always oozing out of every pore. Question is, does it hurt the film? Release prints, probably not and probably not something that can be seen on the screen; on the other hand, that oily substance might attract dirt. Negative elements and archival prints would be another story altogether. Obviously ANY foreign substance on negative or virgin film is bad news. I wonder what Kodak recommends. What do cinematographers use when they are loading cameras?  |  IP: Logged Dan Lyons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 698 From: Seal Beach, CA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 07-12-2005 01:58 PM                     quote: Frank Angel What do cinematographers use when they are loading cameras? They don't, that is someone else's job.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 07-12-2005 02:28 PM                        quote: John Hawkinson Hey Leo, what about cotton over latex? As Prince Philip said, I can think of better ways to have fun! quote: John Hawkinson ...clean hands quickly become dirty and sweaty hands. Agreed entirely, and that happens very quickly indeed in my line of work, e.g. carrying out a first-line examination and accession of a collection of 30 year-old elements which arrive in rusty old cans. For that reason I've often thought that any work area where film handling is carried out should be within easy reach of a wash basin. Health & safety rules forbid running water taps in any room with electrical power points (apart from a shaver socket) here and similar restrictions probably apply elsewhere, but my ideal projection booth or archive workroom would have a a washroom very nearby. As for loading camera negative stock, I gathered from somewhere that this is pre-loaded into magazines in a studio darkroom. The magazines are then attached to the camera and threaded on location, thereby avoiding the need to handle the complete roll in an uncontrolled environment. As I understand it, this reduces the risk both of contamination and fogging. But I'm probably remembering that wrong - perhaps John could put us right on this?  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 07-12-2005 02:39 PM                     The UK is much stricter in terms of electrical regulations than the US is. In the state of Massachusetts, actually, we even have regulations on the books that require an adjoining bathroom with every projection booth (this is part of the same outdated regulations that require licensing of projectionists and other restrictions that are not generally-enforced). But I don't believe that our National Electric Code would prohibit wash basins in booths; certainly here at MIT we have labs with washbasins and more electrical equipment than most booths in far less space . Though clearly it would be a good idea for any nearby electrical outlets to be GFCI-protected. (That's "Ground Fault Circuit Interruptor," which means they contain a device to break the circuit if the current on the hot wire differes from the current on the neutral, i.e. to protect against current travelling through a human and into some other ground somewhere, as might happen in the presence of water.)  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-13-2005 12:59 AM                        You can get inexpensive cotton gloves that are closer to linen than the fluffy, linty cotton gloves. They're a little bit easier to deal with for splices, are a bit more transparent to tactile information, etc. They're generally available everywhere around the central gulf coast at what are called "Mardi Gras Stores", which I suppose elsewhere would be costume & party stores. Ritz Camera stores sell the other linty soft cotton variety.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-14-2005 04:24 PM                        If you are skilled enough to handle the film by the edges only, and not get sweat or fingerprints on the film surface, I prefer bare hands. For those who are "all thumbs", or are handing original elements, high quality lint-free film editors gloves are best (nylon or polyester). Hard to keep cotton lint free during use.  |  IP: Logged Christopher Seo Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 530 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-15-2005 02:01 AM                     When gloves are desired, I've found that Polygenex make the best. The "All-Day Photo Gloves" are made out of nylon and are lint-free, form-fitting, comfortable, and washable; if you have money to burn, the "All-Day ESD" (i.e., electrostatic discharge) are everything you could hope for in a film-handling glove. However, at most I would wear a glove on one hand. Adhesives will ruin any fabric (lint aplenty) and can only be handled by a non-gloved hand. I also gave up high-speed film inspection with the Polygenex gloves because the film was cutting them (and they are relatively expensive)... yet I have never had my hands sliced by the film (thick skin, maybe?). I do think that garden variety cotton gloves are worse than bare hands (when handling film by the edges only)... the lint is flying all over the place.  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-15-2005 08:11 AM                     I always eat a jelly donut while handling film, and don't ware under ware. (Don't try this at home)  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-15-2005 09:05 AM                        quote: Christopher Seo ...yet I have never had my hands sliced by the film (thick skin, maybe?). When I handle film by the edges only, the only time I've come close to getting sliced is by a poorly made splice, or a torn perforation (much more common with old triacetate film). When inspecting a print for splices or edge/perforation damage during winding, you only need to "cup" the film slightly between the thumb and index finger. You shouldn't pinch the film tighter than about a 34mm gap.  |  IP: Logged

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