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Author Topic: 70mm Hello Dolly Print Destoyed? Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 08-08-2005 01:48 PM                    What's the cost of printing a new 70mm DTS print like that? How about a magnetic print? What does "destoyed" mean?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-08-2005 10:06 PM                     Hummmm..... probably around 30K for a new print these days..... Magnetic would be about the same perhaps a little more expensive...has to be done out of the country so the EPA doesn't get wind. Destroyed! All you guys must be simok'in that I-70 stuff. 30 years and how many runs did this print get? It had to be beat red and getting pretty fragile anyway unless it was stored under exceedingly good conditions say as in Jeff's freezer.  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-09-2005 03:08 AM                        the ~25 year old prints that i've seen at the castro (apocalypse now and tonight, dragonslayer) have been rather on the red side, not to mention scratchy and splicy. really selling the format short. again, not blaming the theater for this. that's just the state of the prints. carl  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 08-09-2005 05:47 AM                        quote: Carl Martin ...the ~25 year old prints that i've seen at the castro (apocalypse now and tonight, dragonslayer) have been rather on the red side... If those 70mm prints are from the original release, they predate Kodak's introduction of more fade resistant print films in 1982.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 08-09-2005 06:22 AM                         |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-09-2005 06:34 AM                     It must have been late 1982 for the low-fade prints...Somwhere I have a reel of Star Trek II that was on the Kodak fast-fade stock and it was released in the summer of 1982.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 08-09-2005 09:04 AM                        quote: Steve Guttag It must have been late 1982 for the low-fade prints...Somwhere I have a reel of Star Trek II that was on the Kodak fast-fade stock and it was released in the summer of 1982. That wouldn't surprise me. The smaller production volumes of 70mm usually mean it takes a bit longer to "clear the pipeline" of older product when an improved one is introduced.  |  IP: Logged Bruce McGee Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1776 From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular. Registered: Aug 1999 posted 08-09-2005 10:20 AM                     Not trying to be a jerk here, but, A 70mm 30 year old print? I cant believe that TCF thinks so little of this film, which is better than I thought it would be, to only have one good print available. They waste enough money on new films. Back in the early 1980's I saw an original roadshow print of Sound Of Music in 70mm at the now-defunct Columbia Theatre in Atlanta. It was red red, but the 70mm experience made it worth it to me. Overall, the print was in decent condition, and I was warned when I bought my ticket, that this print was very old. The big surprise was a new LPP final reel of the film. The whole audience gasped when this reel popped on the screen. SOM saved TCF after Cleopatra bombed. One would think that TCF would be more aware of their heritage, wouldn't one? Or, am I just living in a Pollyanna dream? Dont get me totally wrong. I'm glad there is a restored anything print of Hello Dolly. It played here in Asheville when it came out in 35, and was gone in 2-3 weeks. I never got to see it in a theatre. I avoided it on TV until I got to see it letterboxed on my giant 27" set. It's a real oddity, and I often wonder if there was any control happening while this was in production.  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 08-09-2005 12:18 PM                     I think the fact that Fox made even one new 70mm print of Hello Dolly for circulation is pretty amazing. They have made new 70mm prints (albeit for their prep for new video transfers, but still)available for theatres. Fox is at the forefront of this endeavor, with recent years seeing new prints struck and shown such as PATTON, HELLO DOLLY, THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES, THE AGONY AND THE ECSTACY, and DOCTOR DOLITTLE. (SOM has a new 70mm print as well, but I believe FOX is being far more restrictive in its use).  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-09-2005 07:22 PM                     quote: Paul Linfesty (SOM has a new 70mm print as well, but I believe FOX is being far more restrictive in its use). Yea, It makes me so sad that they won't let it out of town.....  |  IP: Logged Bruce McGee Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1776 From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular. Registered: Aug 1999 posted 08-10-2005 10:57 AM                     Ya know, ol' Joe has the range of emotions from A to B. Joe, you need to be on the stage.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 08-10-2005 11:47 AM                        Yeah, the next one leavin' town.  |  IP: Logged

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