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Andy Summers
Master Film Handler

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From: Bournemouth Dorset United kingdom
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 - posted 09-26-2005 06:18 AM      Profile for Andy Summers         Edit/Delete Post 
The last company I worked for (Warner Village Cinemas UK) the pay was around £6,50. I think that's not bad, and honest, I have say.

The hours I liked, yes I really liked the long hours, tell you the truth I liked all the high-tech 35mm projection, and those Dolby CP-500 where cool looking, plus I liked the people it was a nice good commodity and fun at times.

Yeah I’ll do it again for maybe £7,00 as few years have passed, hehehe… [thumbsup]

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John Walsh
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 - posted 09-26-2005 08:08 AM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just for further reference; You'd be fairly poor if you lived in the NY, NJ, CT area making $32K a year. Average rental here is about $1600 a month for a 2-bedroom, no utilities included (except water.)

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Mike Babb
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 - posted 09-26-2005 08:54 AM      Profile for Mike Babb   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Babb   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
2005 HHS Poverty Guidelines
Persons in
Family Unit 48 Contiguous
States and D.C. Alaska Hawaii
1 $ 9,570 $11,950 $11,010
2 12,830 16,030 14,760
3 16,090 20,110 18,510
4 19,350 24,190 22,260
5 22,610 28,270 26,010
6 25,870 32,350 29,760
7 29,130 36,430 33,510
8 32,390 40,510 37,260
For each additional
person, add 3,260 4,080 3,750

SOURCE: Federal Register, Vol. 70, No. 33, February 18, 2005, pp. 8373-8375.

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Bobby Henderson
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"2005 HHS Poverty Guidelines"

Bwwaaahhhahahahahahahaha!

Figures obviously computed by guys with six figure annual salaries who pretty much hang out on a golf course all day.
[Razz]

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Chris Trainor
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 - posted 09-27-2005 12:25 AM      Profile for Chris Trainor   Author's Homepage   Email Chris Trainor   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, keep in mind, those numbers are 'poverty' level. Granted, many people think that if you can't afford a car, a playstation, a cellphone and a few cableTV boxes your in poverty, but in theory someone can 'survive' on about $9k/year. That could cover reasonable rent (say renting a room, like many college students do for $250 - $300/mo) and food at like $10/day (yes, it can be done, and somewhat healthy) and even that leaves you with about $3k leftover for other expenses.

But, at $9k/year or so we're talking someone who's working part time at McDonalds or so... not projectionists. [Smile]

I used to pay my guys (2001) about $7 - $10/hr. They were all part-time, and the guys getting $10 had some experience and handled some 'tech' duties. That was also 4 years ago... (and I'm still having nightmares [Confused] ).

--Chris

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 09-27-2005 01:37 AM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have noticed that people who haven't got a pot to piss in can still always somehow afford:

- Cigarettes
- Booze
- Tattoos
- Cell phones
- Satellite TV

How does this work, anyway?

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 09-27-2005 01:53 AM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Mike Blakesley
How does this work, anyway?

LOL..you forgot to add dog food in that list.

..Called "an odd arrangement of priorities..", or "doing a good job of knowing how to screw the system."

..and the ones who are professional in doing this, are the ones who have the least respect for themselves and others around them....
and unfortunately, I know a few of these people-and I absolutely have nothing to do with them... - "welfare moochers!"

-Monte
-Monte

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Joshua Waaland
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 - posted 09-27-2005 06:37 AM      Profile for Joshua Waaland   Email Joshua Waaland   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Frank,

I am also in the Cleveland area and I have worked as a non-union projectionist all over this region. When I was at Cinemark a few years back, I only made 7-8 dollars and hour. However IATSE pretty much runs everything in the Cleveland metro area as I am sure you must know. I am friends with several of them but have never bothered to ask them what they make. I would venture to guess that they are making close to $20 an hour but not real sure. Hope this helps.

Josh

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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Union projectionist wages in Cleveland, Ohio, have been basically stagnant for 20 years. I think the range is from about $12 to about $18 per hour.

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Heath Dutton
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 - posted 09-30-2005 01:43 PM      Profile for Heath Dutton   Email Heath Dutton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If you were in Alabama, you could expect something in the $7 range for a multiplex. I am going to regret posting this aren't I? [thumbsup]

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Bill Gabel
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The union projection techs that work for Edwards/Regal are still working at 1999 contract rate of $18.50 an hour in Local 150 Los Angeles area.

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Frank Dubrois
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It seems that union projectionists get the big $$$, and non-union workers get next to nothing. Iowa/Wisconsin/Illinois non union projectionists are $7-$9. If you love the job, how can you survive on that? In my opinion, its simply not enough money. How does one get into a projectionist union? As I understand it (and I really dont) you have to be in the union to get a union projectionist job? Or do you apply at a theater with a union booth and then get into the union after your hired?

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Steve Guttag
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The other way is to organize and vote to have union representation. IATSE is certainly the union of record for projecitonists in the USA but other unions can take on such an effort. Once the booth wants to organize, and has a bonified union to represent them, they can effectively call for a vote and demand collective bargaining under the National Labor Laws...you need not do it company wide.

Mind you...there are no guarantees there. You can force an employer to the table and you can attempt to keep them "bargaining in good faith." but you are not guaranteed of any increase in pay or benefits. If you do secure a contract, you might find that you will not get enough of an increase in pay to justify the representation or that your income does go up, on the days you actually do work but not work as many hours.

Then again, you might get the hours and the pay...everything is open at the bargaining table and the keenest mind (and best lawyers) will come out on top.

As for working for a theatre that has a union contract...you often must seek work through either a Business Agent of the union or the shop steward of the location. You will often start in a "permit" status where you work while not a member but will be offered membership after a prescribed time. An advantage of coming to a union by bringing a new location to them is often the time and money of joining a union is often waived in recognition of bringing in new jobs.

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Wolff King Morrow
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There are theater chains that do not "support" unions. In other words, I'm betting they will fire anyone attempting to organize a union amongst the employees.

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Scott Norwood
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...which would be illegal in the US.

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