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Author Topic: What's the purpose of the chain hanging from a Xenon bulb?
Ken Lackner
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That's interesting. I used to operate Xenex II's and I've never seen that chain. I can't quite tell from the picture...what is it attached to?

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Dominic Espinosa
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Brad,
We have the same lamphouses you do, ours however do not have that chain. I've noticed no negative effects in its absense.
If that is any consolation.

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Monte L Fullmer
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True, I have ran a Xenex this summer at a drive-in (which didn't have this chain and I was running a 3k bulb) that this is the first time that I've heard of that chain effect.

Still quite interesting that this concept was conceived-probably due to that the bulbs at that time of lamphouse manufacturer, didn't have that capacitive wire attached to the bulb as they are now.

-Monte

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Frank Angel
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Hence a chain reaction [Roll Eyes]

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Tim Reed
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quote: Ken Lackner
I used to operate Xenex II's and I've never seen that chain.
The chains were in original Xenex's, in the mid-70s.

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Brad Allen
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quote: Ken Lackner
That's interesting. I used to operate Xenex II's and I've never seen that chain. I can't quite tell from the picture...what is it attached to?

It's not attached to anything. It just hangs.

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Michael Schaffer
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How come it doesn't short the cathode to the lamp house?

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Quartz isn't usually conductive.

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Marin Zorica
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Ok isn't connected to anything - that's mean it has no electrical function like arc stabilization (i bet no bulb have this like carbon arcs) and is not for for faster ignition, this is wolfram wire...

It's may bee somebody put just like that with no special reason or may bee come with bulb and someone forgot to move it from bulb?

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Michael Schaffer
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OK, I see now that it's not touching the cathode end piece. When I looked at the picture without my glasses I couldn't see that the back part of the lamp was clear with the electrode inside. Isn't the same purpose served by the little wire found on most lamps though?

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Monte L Fullmer
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Yea, if I remember that the early xenon bulb didn't have the wire being wrapped around the anode end of the bulb and attached at the cathode end.

These early bulbs were a bugger at times to ignite-let alone love to explode when they were newly put in the lamphouse. There used to be a warning sheet in the box (Osram) of potiental explosions in the first half-hour of operation.

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Louis Bornwasser
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Yes, the vestige of an earlier day. (OK to lose the chain with modern bulbs) Louis

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Gordon McLeod
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Part of the purepose was also to reduce the effect of the coating on the reflectors that with some brands of lamps influenced ignition

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Michael Schaffer
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How?

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