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Author Topic: What's that nice white tape that isn't masking tape?
John Hawkinson
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 - posted 07-12-2010 10:17 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
But I beat you by 1/4"!

--jhawk

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Bill Enos
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 - posted 07-13-2010 04:50 PM      Profile for Bill Enos   Email Bill Enos   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Why is "artists tape" so damned expensive compared to other tapes?
A roll of 4" wide duct tape is less expensive and seems to me that it should cost more than 3/4" paper tape.

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Ian Parfrey
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 - posted 07-13-2010 05:08 PM      Profile for Ian Parfrey   Email Ian Parfrey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Compare the price of any adhesive tape to magnetic recording tape and the difference is amazing.
Recording tape requires much finer tolerances and QC and adhesive is just a base with gum on it.

Weird.

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Louis Bornwasser
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 - posted 07-13-2010 05:15 PM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bill: supply & demand. Duct ("duck") tape is generic and is everywhere. Artists tape is only in niche markets.

Same with amplifiers. Industry-only amps were expensive. If you can find a suitable one, the pawn shop or guitar store will always be less. Louis

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David E. Nedrow
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 - posted 07-14-2010 10:30 PM      Profile for David E. Nedrow   Author's Homepage   Email David E. Nedrow   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Plus, isn't the point of artist's tape that not only does it have a good hold, it should also remove cleanly? Not something duct tape will generally do.

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 07-15-2010 12:44 PM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
and now, it's the high adhesive cheap masking tape that's being used.

And I bet, that the majority of the booths and boxes around the world use masking tape to hold down leader ends and labelling built prints ...

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 07-15-2010 05:59 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've used masking tape for years, because it's easy to get. But, all masking tape is not created equal. I use the good 3M stuff -- even after a year or two it will still peel off cleanly. (Plus, I get it cheaper than some might because we sell it at my day job at the parts store.)

In this day of two-months-and-shredded prints, it doesn't really matter what kind of tape you use as long as you USE A NEW PIECE EACH TIME.

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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 - posted 07-16-2010 10:40 AM      Profile for Jeffry L. Johnson   Author's Homepage   Email Jeffry L. Johnson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I switched to Scotch Blue Painter's Tape. The adhesive doesn't transfer. The adhesive doesn't dry out. The tape removes cleanly, even after several years. You can find it at most hardware stores.

White tape, like masking tape, varies in quality.

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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 07-22-2010 11:45 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, we use paper tape on trailers that can sit around for...decades. The ones that had masking tape put on them in the 1970s are atrocious. We'll stick with paper tape.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 07-23-2010 02:46 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
John,

Some paper tape can be left on film for years and not leave a residue. Others over time DO leave a residue. Just an FYI.

Sadly I didn't make notes over the years of what brand/model of tape I used to be able to better pinpoint this.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Wow, my two "SALT" prints had artist's tape on the leaders - and I peel that stuff off to use instead of masking tape.

Guess the stuff ain't extinct yet with the labs ...

-Monte

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John Hawkinson
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Waitsec, Monte. Are you saying you're "harvesting" the backing tape that goes behind the titles on the leaders that the labs put there to make them easier to read?

That's...not very nice to the next guy who would like to be able to read the leaders clearly.

--jhawk

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Monte L Fullmer
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I don't worry about it since I mark the reel number on the hold-down tape anywho and you can still see the leader headers. 'sides, it's just two prints and I may only "harvest" one or two leader's tape anywhos.

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Brad Miller
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Regardless of the very valid concern that John expressed above, tape should not be reused...period.

If you ever watched the depot guys open prints returning from their engagements, you would understand WHY tape should NEVER be reused. Also you would understand why 6 inches of tape is needed.

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Jason Metcalfe
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 - posted 07-29-2010 12:33 PM      Profile for Jason Metcalfe   Email Jason Metcalfe   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad-
Do you guys order tape from a distributor or do you buy it around town?

We were getting the 3M 256 from Asel on Cedar Springs but they bumped their prices up to $17.50 a roll

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