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Frank Dubrois
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Cleveland, OH
Registered: Mar 2005


 - posted 12-16-2005 09:31 PM      Profile for Frank Dubrois     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Erick why do you keep telling us that you know how to test the disc, and its easy, but cant tell us, but its easy, and you've known about it...blah blah...say it, or get over it. I HATE people that do that [bs]

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Frank Angel
Film God

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Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 12-17-2005 06:45 AM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't hate anyone, but like Greg, I DO want an easy way to force a DTS disc to play and for very legitimate technical reasons. Hmmm, let me amend that....I don't hate anyone, at least not during the holidays....well, maybe that's not 100% true, in fact, now that I think about it, I probably hate more people during the holidays than at other times, especially in the malls....OK, forget I even mentioned it....just tell me where to find this piece of code that will get the job don't and I promise I won't say anything personal, sarcastic or nasty, which for me is not a walk in the park. Come on Erik, give it up. Oh, and Happy Holidays. [Big Grin]

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 12-17-2005 06:56 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
There isn't a way anymore Frank.

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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
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 - posted 12-17-2005 07:24 AM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Couldn't you just use a DTS disk for an older film? Or has the firmware update made it impossible to play _any_ disk without timecode? And doesn't DTS sell a timecode generator box that can provide the necessary timecode, anyway?

(I'm not very up to date on DTS--it's been several years since I've worked with the format.)

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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 - posted 12-17-2005 07:53 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Scott,

DTS discontinued the TCG a while back. There was also another one available that was made by the guy that originally wrote the DTS software but that too is nnow unavailable. The latter one was commonly used in Large Format theatres.

Mark

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Greg Mueller
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 - posted 12-17-2005 09:19 AM      Profile for Greg Mueller   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Mueller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Scott...Yes you can still use an older set of disks if you want to test out your hardware, but what I was trying to do (when I discovered that you can't do it anymore) is test the disks themselves. I've gotten a good percentage of bad disks and unless you can play them apart from the film, you're never quite sure if it's bad film or bad disks. I've had both

Maybe this will fix the piracy issue (I doubt it) but if it doesn't, maybe they will go back to the old system

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Frank Angel
Film God

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 - posted 12-17-2005 09:39 PM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Even if you could get your hands on a TCG from DTS, how would that work? Doesn't the software in the player check to make sure the disk matches the title code on the film so that you cannot inadvertantly play a disk from another film?

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Michael Schaffer
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 - posted 12-18-2005 01:59 AM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You can still test the drive with the actual DTS test discs. If the drives test OK, and the digital sound drops out, it's either the discs, or the TC. Since the TC is indicated on the reader and the processor, you can still find out pretty easily which element is faulty. You don't even have to stand there and stare at the TC reader. I sometimes hook up my IE33 and let it write the time code signal level in a log chart. Then you can see immediately and exactly where the TC drops out.

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