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Author Topic: DTS timecode drop out/TCR LED switching Frank Dubrois Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 896 From: Cleveland, OH Registered: Mar 2005 posted 01-20-2006 08:26 PM                    I guess my question is, if I know how to solder, would I be able to buy the LEDS from you and solder it in myself? Or are there scopes and other devices that need to be hooked up in order to "calibrate" or adjust the LED in anyway?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-20-2006 10:59 PM                     I will only do them in house because of the equipment needed to align them. Also we inspect other aspects of the scanner such as drum width wear and bearings. If your reader has to be sent back to DTS due to the drum width being excessive then you can do it through us or we will be happy to return it to you and you can have your own dealer handle it for you. Mark  |  IP: Logged Frank Dubrois Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 896 From: Cleveland, OH Registered: Mar 2005 posted 01-20-2006 11:59 PM                    Thats quite a savings if we send it to you instead of DTS, the only problem we have then is we dont have an extra reader during the time that we send it off to you. Doesnt DTS send us the reader, then we just send ours in as a core?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-21-2006 12:13 PM                     Yes, they do. However for the savings you get I can't justify sending out loaner readers. It shouldn't be a problem running analog for a few days unless you have really really bad analog...... Mark  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-21-2006 01:33 PM                     ..speaking of which...as some of us do the optical/CAT-701 LED power supply tied in with the motor start so the LED is off during machine rest, is there a way to do to the same with the DTS timecode reader's LED - outside of having the entire unit switched with the motor start to keep this LED off during machine rest. Or, is this too complicated of a trick to do on DTS units? thx-Monte  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 01-21-2006 02:15 PM                     Monte: It would be relatively simple to do what you propose. You would only need to interrupt pin 5 of the 9-pin connector to the reader (the +5v supply) in order to shut off the reader. Use a relay off the motor power and let that relay's contacts open up pin 5 when the motor is off. Anyone interested in how can contact me for a diagram, or if they would like me to build a breakout connector for the TCR cable. edited to finish contacts sentence.  |  IP: Logged Jason Miller Expert Film Handler Posts: 241 From: Little Rock, AR, Registered: Mar 2004 posted 01-21-2006 07:29 PM                    I kinda want to hear Karen or someone from DTS input on this.  |  IP: Logged Frank Dubrois Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 896 From: Cleveland, OH Registered: Mar 2005 posted 01-21-2006 08:27 PM                    I remember speaking to hear about it once before. Basically its a "No user servicable parts inside, you need to send it back" type answer. I guess for the normal person, thats true though. I don't think I'd dink around with one, especially with the replacement cost being so high.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-21-2006 09:26 PM                     I agree with Tony. Its an easy thing to do and quite logical. Mark  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-22-2006 02:53 AM                     Yea, now to think about it, it would be an easy adaptation to do: pop open the cover, goto the DB-9 timecode reader socket, find Pin #5 for the +5vdc (which would be the red lead coming from the AT powersupply), snip the red lead and plop a relay inbetween the snip. If a small relay is used, then a stepdown transformer would be needed to drop the 120v down to the relay's winding voltage to do the trick. One can easily parallel the 120v leads for the transformer into the input lines for the AT power supply. This all could be done inside the unit being there is so much room inside the case itself. Just have to bolt down the transformer some what to the case. How close am I with this assumption? thx-monte  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-22-2006 09:31 AM                     Monte...a bit drastic and warranty voiding solution. How about...put a 120V relay on the motor for the projector or use the "exciter" relay in an automation if the contacts are available...or have a relay that is triggered based on what format your sound processor is in...ie if in Non-Sync, no DTS LED...nixes potential multiple reversions at the end of show and the premature jump to DTS at the beginning too....the possibilities are endless. Then make a special DTS reader cable that breaks out the +5 line to the relay contacts. Are you comfortable making up Dsub connectors? Believe it or not, most of the 9 pins in the DTS reader cable are not used. +5, Ground/Reference, TC1 (and TC2 for changeovers) and Reader status LED (the green one on the reader). Depending on how you want to monitor when the reader LED should be lit, break the +5 line at that end and route it as necessary with some 2-conductor cable. Steve  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-22-2006 01:55 PM                     Thx Steve for these ideas. I can then work with these suggested routes then. -Monte  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-22-2006 03:07 PM                     quote: Monte L Fullmer I can then work with these suggested routes then. What ever route you do take be sure to do it with the power off..... . Mark  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-22-2006 05:16 PM                     lol..duh! ...just like working on a computer... ..have no problems working with Dsub connections. Used to work in a wire assembly plant where hand soldering was a mandatory part of the operation and working with all sorts of connectors, switches PC boards, et.al. ...  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 01-23-2006 05:19 PM                        quote: Steve Guttag Depending on how you want to monitor when the reader LED should be lit, break the +5 line at that end and route it as necessary with some 2-conductor cable. Why 2-conductor? Which cable do you recommend?  |  IP: Logged

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