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Author Topic: Dolby Clones Ron Funderburg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 814 From: Chickasha, Oklahoma, USA Registered: Nov 2007 posted 02-02-2008 08:00 PM                        I'm sorry for your miss-understanding. Whether you are good at English or not you are not God and I do not take orders from you! So if you have an opinion state it as an opinion and not an order! You opinion was noted and I rewrote the thing! But as you aren't the owner of the site don't tell me not to post! You may be good at English you but are manner deprived!  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 02-02-2008 08:48 PM                     I hosted an early demo of Kintek "fake" stereo in Central Florida (with the help of Mike Suttkis) and a demo of Smart "fake" stereo at a cinema in Miami for a cinema owners convention, both in the early 1980's. I saw the Colortek demo at the Century Cinemas in Los Angeles for S.M.P.T.E. using a stereo mix of Brannigan with John Wayne. I viewed the installation of the hardware in the Century soundhead This system did not catch on since it required higher QC at the film laboratory level.....this was either late 1970's or early 80's. The Flourescent system by Kodak was to allow other things other than audio to happen, such as footage / frame location; usage failed to capture industry interest. Kodak introduced optically readable Datacode which allows automation in handling of negative material. Iscovision, in various forms, has been a mild squeeze anamorphic process for images...I used the amateur version for a museum show in the 1990's. LC concepts was a system used in France that worked on the same concept as a DTS player but used floppy disks. DTS bought them out since they where in the market when Jurrasic Park was rolling out. This tit for tat cat(word) fight between George Bernard Shaw and Studs Terkel is not in spirit of what is going on; different styles but still communication...  |  IP: Logged Cameron Glendinning Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 845 From: West Ryde, Sydney, NSW Australia Registered: Dec 2005 posted 02-02-2008 09:00 PM                     Iscovision thingy info  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-02-2008 09:15 PM                     Note...as to fake-stereo...it was all the rage in the early '80s when stereo films were on the order of 20% of all releases. SMART, USL and Kintek were big into it. Kintek being born of psudostereo and, in my opinion, by far the best. USL had their "Jsyn-05" module that worked in many JS series processors and SMART had a multibox approach to surround generation as well as stereo generation. Strong had a non-lived form of multichannel audio via laserdisc they were briefly promoting...."DS6", I think it was. If one were to download the Eprad Starscope manual and read Al's commentary...it makes the humerous remarks that "you can't hear digital" since they are merely bits of 1s and 0s. As such one should invenst in the SVA technology...now this was back before 1980 the "threat" of digital was upon us for sound. Steve  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 02-02-2008 09:29 PM                     Kinoton also had a disk system during the same period of the Strong system.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 02-03-2008 04:57 AM                       quote: Ron Funderburg Well it was 26 years and 5 months ago or 27 years and 5 months ago sorry I don't remember every word! Relax. No need to get defensive.  |  IP: Logged Ron Funderburg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 814 From: Chickasha, Oklahoma, USA Registered: Nov 2007 posted 02-03-2008 10:40 AM                        Tim thanks I'm wouldn't have been! It was an interesting concept and if I recall correctly the system could be used to trigger in theater special effects. Then again both Dolby and DTS have touted that with out ever doing it. I'm not sure that fog in the theater or lightening off the back wall is all that important.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-03-2008 11:00 AM                     DTS did indeed to the lightning off the back wall trick. The TRAILER for the Jurassic Park II movie could trigger a so equipped theatre to flash strobes in a "lightning" like effect. We set up about a half-dozen theatres for this promo. I believe Boston Light and Sound were responsible for the set ups nationwide. Steve  |  IP: Logged Jeffry L. Johnson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 809 From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 02-03-2008 11:51 AM                        quote: Richard Fowler LC concepts was a system used in France that worked on the same concept as a DTS player but used floppy disks. LC Concept used magneto-optical (MO) discs. LC Concept wikipedia entry LC Concept  |  IP: Logged Michael Coate Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1904 From: Los Angeles, California Registered: Feb 2001 posted 02-03-2008 11:32 PM                     quote: Ron Funderburg So if you have an opinion state it as an opinion and not an order! I wasn't giving you an order. I was simply stating that those who cannot meet even a minimum level of competency in their communication would be better off not posting. Otherwise, you're wasting your time and the time of those reading your posts. As well, you undermine your credibility if you are unable to effectively convey your thoughts and ideas. quote: Ron Funderburg You may be good at English you but are manner deprived! Why? Because I dare to be critical? Because I believe quality and attention to detail matter? Because I value my time and the time of others? It is you, Ron, who is disrespecting every one of us who expend time and energy reading your postings. No one should have to struggle through someone's postings or be misled by unclear comments. In addition, I cannot believe you have the balls to state you are aware that you have a writing deficiency and post quickly and without review, and yet you choose to do nothing to rectify the problem. I realize some people will never be good at punctuating or correctly using there, their & they're or its & it's, or dealing with issues of stylization and form that require some thought. I also realize the casual, conversational tone of these forums and, contrary to what you may think, I do not believe postings need be of publishing quality. But, dude, at least run a spell check! EDIT to bring back on-topic... So have we come to a consensus on what this early '80s mystery process may have been? [ 02-04-2008, 02:40 AM: Message edited by: Michael Coate ]  |  IP: Logged Ron Funderburg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 814 From: Chickasha, Oklahoma, USA Registered: Nov 2007 posted 02-06-2008 11:31 AM                        Michael, you certainly are not opposed to waisting time and energy pontificating about my short comings. Give it a rest boy go back to being critical of writers, actors and directors which at least you can get paid for. I am not important enough for you to put so much effort in to this nor am I concerned enough with your opinion for it to matter. And back to the subject or at least one of the subjects, I do believe the processes was a clone company working with Kodak but again it was to long ago for me to remember exactly.  |  IP: Logged John Walsh Film God Posts: 2490 From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way Registered: Oct 1999 posted 02-06-2008 12:20 PM                     It's interesting ... the LC Concepts seems very close to DTS and does seem to pre-date it. I saw the Jurrasic Park trailer at the Zig, with the lighting strobe effect, but I thought it was just triggered by a cue on the film or something. I didn't know the DTS player did it. At the time, DTS was just providing the Rt-Lt, so I didn't even think about it 'ouputting' a cuing signal.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-06-2008 02:51 PM                     I just found the original brochure for the Strong Digital System here at work today. I'll scan it and post it here tonight.... Mark  |  IP: Logged

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