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Thomas Dieter
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 234
From: Yakima, WA
Registered: Jun 2004

posted 04-21-2006 11:49 PM

To go along with anything that Tim Burke my read now, as Brad had dropped him a message and invited him to the forums, Digital Cinema is the worst Idea that the industry is trying to press upon us. Read on Please. 70mm VS. Digital Cinema

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Frank Angel
Film God

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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 04-22-2006 01:52 AM

Hold up here guys...maybe this isn't such a bad idea after all. If nothing else, it's a good measure of the intelligence of the guys who actually thought up this policy. So that being our cue, why don't we encourage them to continue this odd/even reel thing....tell them it is SUCH a brilliant anti-piracy device that, along with their other too-ingenius-for-words anti-piracy device -- that of putting phony titles on the shipping cans -- the combination of the two amounts to such a insurmountable foil for would-be pirates that there is no longer any need for CRAP CODES! The codes can simply be eliminated!

I can see them now, all sitting around their conference table over there at Technisylum, scratching the needle holes in their foreheads where all that botox has leaked into their brain pans and saying, "Golly gee, those guys on Film-Tech are right....we don't need Crap Codes any more. Get Tim Burk on the horn...send out the Decree. NO MORE CRAP CODES ON OUR PRINTS."

This could work to our advantage. [evil]

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Robert Burtcher
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From: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Registered: Jun 2005

posted 04-22-2006 03:15 AM

quote: Steve Guttag
C) To attach the leaders/tails with duct tape to ensure the would-be theif's telecine (since that MUST be how prints are allegidly stolen) will be ruined when the tape hits the machine.

To be perfectly honest, that's not that far fetched... I have heard of a "tabletop" telecine that is portable enough to be easily brought into a projection booth. As the story I've been told goes, all the components, including digital sound readers, are integrated into a folding table. However, given the source that described it to me - a friend who likes to test just how gullible people are - I think it's likely more story than fact.

Even if these are real, the odd/even reel thing wouldn't do a thing to prevent piracy at all. As has already been said, it'd likely cause more headaches in the booth than anything else.

[ 04-22-2006, 04:36 AM: Message edited by: Robert Burtcher ]

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Jeff Lacey
Film Handler

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From: Canton, MI, USA
Registered: Jun 2005

posted 04-22-2006 03:30 AM

quote: Mike Blakesley
FWIW, the newsletter I got from TES today didn't have a word about this new "policy."

We got the newsletter yesterday, and the fax tonight. Maybe you guys are a day behind us?

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Frank Angel
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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 04-22-2006 04:45 PM

quote: Robert Burtcher
As has already been said, it'd likely cause more headaches in the booth than anything else.

If a booth is run by people who will get stumped by reels not being in order in a can, then they deserve to have plenty headaches.

Maybe if a few shows have to be stopped because someone built a show with reels loaded out of sequence, theatre management might get the message that the need to hire more qualified personnel for the booth.

Hey, this REALLY might work to our advantage!

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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99

posted 04-22-2006 06:10 PM

It's a bone-headed idea that will only INCREASE theft!

Now the crooks have to steal THREE cans of film to get (a reasonable chance to have) one complete movie. But, to make damn sure they get a whole print they will probably just steal four or five.

If you want to really frig things up, why don't you ship the reels randomly split between three cans?

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Mike Blakesley
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From: Forsyth, Montana
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posted 04-22-2006 06:26 PM

Why not ship reel 1 on Monday, reel 2 on Tuesday and so on, with the ending coming on Friday. Not only woud the shipping containers be easier to handle, but with this handy system the projectionist could conveniently build up a reel a day and have short work on Friday to simply add the last reel or two.

(I hesitated to post this because they might read it and think it's a good idea)

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Bruce McGee
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From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999

posted 04-22-2006 06:26 PM

I have still NEVER seen a pirated film other than ones done in a theatre, or with an image surround by time-codes. I think the MPAA is just looking to flex their muscles and remind us all that THEY are still out there. [eyes]

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John T. Hendrickson, Jr
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From: Freehold, NJ, USA
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 04-22-2006 09:25 PM

Sooner or later, some of us are going to end up with two cans of even reels, or two cans of odd ones. I can forsee shipping mistakes being made here, adding to the confusion.

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Frank Angel
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From: Brooklyn NY USA
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posted 04-23-2006 12:10 AM

quote: Bruce McGee
I have still NEVER seen a pirated film other than ones done in a theatre, or with an image surround by time-codes. I think the MPAA is just looking to flex their muscles and remind us all that THEY are still out there.

And Bruce, let's not forget all the copies out there on the street with that crawl on the bottom of the screen: "Academy member copy for evaluation purposes only. Do not copy." It's the Academy's dirty little secret that the MPAA never talks about -- they sure don't want to bite the hand that feeds them.

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Adam Martin
I'm not even gonna point out the irony.

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From: Dallas, TX
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 04-23-2006 12:52 AM

I would like to take this opportunity to thank BAFTA for the excellent screener DVD of "Transamerica" that I downloaded a few weeks back (before it was available on DVD). It really helped keep my Netflix queue to less than 350 titles.

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Jack Ondracek
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From: Port Orchard, WA, USA
Registered: Oct 2002

posted 04-23-2006 01:12 AM

Just out of curiosity... who can specify exactly what movies have been pirated in such a way that this new practice will thwart those evil-doers?

Classic, really... dumb down the requirements to run a booth, then make the process so complicated, only a career union projectionist can keep track of it.

I really do love this business! [Smile]

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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posted 04-24-2006 01:12 PM

quote: Robert Burtcher
I have heard of a "tabletop" telecine that is portable enough to be easily brought into a projection booth.

The Arri Loc-Pro Projector can be used as a "tabletop telecine":

http://www.arri.de/entry/new_pro.htm

quote:
High Quality Video Transfer
While the workprint provides critical evaluation of dailies, the LOCPRO 35 video transfer offers video copies at, literally, no additional cost.

To save on expensive Telecine transfers, the LOCPRO 35 features a 1/3" CCD Color High Resolution Imager for film-to-video transfers. With just the flip of two knobs, the wall/screen projection can be switched to video. The video image is high quality and according to editing people, very well suited to their editing process.

The LOCPRO Y/C and composite signal output is used to record video images on VHS, ¾", Hi8, DV or Beta-SP formats. The video signal also facilitates the direct digitizing into an AVID film composer. The signal is synchronized at an accurate 29.97 or 23.976 frame rate.

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Mike Heenan
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From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 04-24-2006 06:26 PM

I seem to remember 2 guys that lent their Academy screeners out to friends, getting busted. That was reported publicly.

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Dennis Benjamin
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From: Denton, MD
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 04-24-2006 07:09 PM

"Why not ship reel 1 on Monday, reel 2 on Tuesday and so on, with the ending coming on Friday. Not only would the shipping containers be easier to handle, but with this handy system the projectionist could conveniently build up a reel a day and have short work on Friday to simply add the last reel or two."

I actually like this idea. HA! HA! They could save money and use the most reliable shipping availible : the United States Post Office -(not).

What the hell is happening to our industry?

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