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Aaron Sisemore
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
At least Phil had a good looking Simplex XL / "4-Star" booth there - with matching Magnarc lamphouses..
That's an RCA soundhead in Phil's picture.

quote: Monte L Fullmer
Aaron - the STRONG X-16's, weren't those the vertical bulb units that looks like a Magnarc lamphouse?
Yep. Basically a converted Magnarc. Bulbs were a bitch to focus on those.

Here's one of the drive-ins I worked at back when it still had carbons (early 1982). I really loved those Futura IIs!

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-Aaron

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Robert Throop
Master Film Handler

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Phil,
Was that a military booth?
Bob

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Kenneth Wuepper
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Here is a photo of Rick McKay as he observes reel #3 of "Braodway ..The Golden Age" at the Temple Theatre in Saginaw, MI.

Carbon light from Ashcraft lamps.

Insert Photo here

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John Eickhof
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Dan..The Stanford is still carbon arc.. in fact, I supplied the booth when it was remodeled years ago! The projectors are XLs and are fully equipped for nitrate film! Yes! Nitrate! David Packard tends to run a lot of archive nitrate prints from the UCLA archives! I had to rebuild the XLs ( that came out of the Keystone Cinema in Reno, NV ) for nitrate, including fire shutters and full film compartment and magazine air tight seals ( MASS. requirements) The lamps are Magnarcs with a motorgenerator in the basement! (200ft arc lamp leads!) The genny and back-up rectifiers had to be located in the basement as the original genny room adjacent to the booth was needed for a second fire exit for the operators to meet current UBC & national fire codes! My Long time friend and former employee Mac Wurtsbaugh was the installer for me on the job. Opening nite was fun when David Packard presented an original NITRATE print of Wizard of OZ! ( The local media proclaimed it as the "colorized" version!!! )

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Dan Zastrow
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Yup, that David Packard is my kind of crazy. I had heard he set-up for nitrate. Did you have to put in fire plates for the projector ports, metal fire doors etc? I can hear it now "Alfredo! Alfredo!" [Wink]

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Monte L Fullmer
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Have a friend who was about that little boy's age when he starting to run projectors and just about did the same: stood up on the stool to lace up the machines, change the rods and struck up the lamphouses - only thing, it wasn't the small town's projectionist like Alfredo..it was his father.

We're still great friends and he's the one that really helped me get into this crazy field of work.

Yea, go find and watch "Cinema Paradiso" .. great movie.

-Monte

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Phil Hill
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quote: Aaron Sisemore
That's an RCA soundhead in Phil's picture.
Aaron is correct.

quote: Robert Throop
Was that a military booth?
Yes it was a 1000 seat theatre at Ft. Monmouth Army Base in NJ. What tipped it off to you, Bob?

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Gordon Burke
Film Handler

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Is there a photo of the Stanford's booth anywhere? I'm too chicken to bug the projectionist to ask for a tour. All I can ever see peering through the porthole is a CP50 and some patch panels on the back wall.

I always sit in the balcony portion and enjoy hearing the reel alarms go-off, then anticipate and critique (if necessary) the changeover.

There are patches in the concrete wall where it appears the portholes were a few-feet lower than they are now. John, do you have any insight as to why this mod was made if it was done by the David Packard Clan?

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Robert Throop
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Phil,
I service an AAFES booth with an identical setup except they have LP xenon lamps. I just replaced the magazines with reel arms last year because they wanted something more "modern".
Bob

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Gordon Burke
I always sit in the balcony portion and enjoy hearing the reel alarms go-off, then anticipate and critique (if necessary) the changeover
..one of the sad reasons why projectionist never went to the movies: critique the changeover, critique the mirror alignment and light output between the two lamphouses, critique the sound quality between machines..then finally critique when someone has used the cue marker to make their own cues over the ones that the labs placed on the film when printing.

And when you show someone the cue marks on the screen - in why we have two machines..they will NEVER enjoy the movie again..cuz they will remember and be looking for those cue marks..... and, I do that to this day when explaning someone about cuemarks...

(sorry about that on Phil's pict..had SH-1000 on the mind..just that I've rarely worked with an RCA soundhead..my goof..)
-Monte

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Henry Titchen
Film Handler

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On the topic of Carbon Arc booths...does anyone still run an AC carbon setup?

Henry.

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Frank Angel
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Well, not for film. AC arcs will cause pulsing against the shutter. But we had Hi-Intensity AC arcs for the SuperTrouper followspots up until a few years ago. Now they are xenon sources.

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Gordon McLeod
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Actually Achcraft made a AC projection arc called the cyclex that had a special motor generator that synced the ac to the shutter frequency

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Jack Ondracek
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Yeah... I worked a booth that had one of those. It took awhile, getting used to the idea that both carbons were the same size... 7's or 8's, I think.

Craters on both?

Decent light, though. Don't remember what the lamphouse was.

Frank, there's a community theatre here that has 2 AC Troupers. Never could get them interested in converting. Maybe, when they run out of carbons.

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Robert Throop
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[QUOTE]Actually Achcraft made a AC projection arc called the cyclex that had a special motor generator that synced the ac to the shutter frequency

The Cyclex used a special 96 hz. motor generator for each lamp.
Bob

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