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Author Topic: Silent Format Orientation? Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 07-25-2006 04:13 PM                     Guttag likes the cheesy taste of film I done the same loading film magazines in a darkroom  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-25-2006 09:42 PM                     mmmmmmmmm ffffiiiiiiillllllllmmmmm.  |  IP: Logged Tommie Evans Expert Film Handler Posts: 116 From: Birmingham, West Midlands, UK Registered: Sep 2004 posted 07-26-2006 04:40 PM                     Guys, there is a much easier way to tell the difference between base and emulsion. Breath on the film slightly as if you are steaming up a mirror. Your breath will condensate on the base side (you will see it on the surface) and fail to condensate on the emulsion side. This works with no negative effects to both film or handler. I can't remember the last time I tried it on acetate but I think it works just the same?  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-27-2006 08:29 AM                        Blowing moist breath on the film works most of the time, but I sometimes find the difference between base and emulsion side to be too subtle to be reliable. Probably influenced by the temperature of the film, which would have to be below the dew point of warm breath.  |  IP: Logged Gary Crawford Expert Film Handler Posts: 200 From: Neptune NJ USA Registered: Nov 2003 posted 07-27-2006 01:39 PM                     Not very scientific, but if you have a good work lamp and good eyes and you angle the film slightly back and forth so the light reflects from it, you can see different "levels" of emulsion, little ridges and edges and such, and the emulsion side is usually "semi-gloss" rather than "high-gloss" on the film side. Or do the bottom lip drag test, it worked for us back in the good ol' days.  |  IP: Logged Richard P. May Expert Film Handler Posts: 243 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Jan 2006 posted 07-27-2006 01:48 PM                     How about scratching a small spot in the leader, way before it could have any damaging effect? Pretty simple, and absolute results. RPM  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-27-2006 03:29 PM                        quote: Gary Crawford Not very scientific, but if you have a good work lamp and good eyes and you angle the film slightly back and forth so the light reflects from it, you can see different "levels" of emulsion, little ridges and edges and such, and the emulsion side is usually "semi-gloss" rather than "high-gloss" on the film side. The "relief image" on the emulsion was very obvious in the days of the old ECP process used prior to the early 1980's (dichromate bleach), as the bleach had a "tanning" effect on the gelatin emulsion that was dependent on the density being developed. The relief image is much more subtle on modern print films.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 07-28-2006 01:56 AM                     yet, good eyes can see the relief impressions on a emulsion side to where none can be seen on the base side..if you hold it to the light just right and get the reflection to work your way .. -Monte  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 07-30-2006 01:15 AM                       quote: Steve Guttag Yes, I did warn it was gross I always preferred the taste of Dolby tone over Buzz Track.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 08-01-2006 05:16 PM                        RP-40, fafa beans and a good Chianti for me...  |  IP: Logged

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