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John Pytlak
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quote: Mike Blakesley
....unless you're looking at a James Bond or Pink Panther movie, in which case the title will be 1000 feet in, or possibly in reel 2... or if you're looking at "The Passion of the Christ," you'll look through the whole print trying to find that title.
Did those films have the correct title printed on the leaders? Or are they using code names there too?

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Leo Enticknap
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The ones I handled had the codenames printed onto the leader from the interneg, too. In other words, the only way to establish for sure what the actual film was was to put reel 1 on the bench and look for a BBFC censor certificate on the front. Given that American censor certificates are (i) at the end of the feature, and (ii) don't include the title, a print without a BBFC certificate would be even more difficult to identify if you hadn't been informed of a codenamed distribution in advance.

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Phil Blake
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well i don't know but it all seems like they are shutting the gate after the horse has bolted.

popular titles are appearing on the net and pirate dvds are on the streets before someone has even thought about a code name for the film, it appears to be a real band aid approach!

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Mark J. Marshall
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quote:
It was 'Perfect Timing' aka Star Bores which I packed off back to Perivale ... wish it had stayed there!
Why? It didn't do any business at your theater?

I don't get why code names confuse people. I also don't get why studios use them. I know all the reasons given: It helps prevent piracy by confusing people blah blah blah. They don't confuse us at all.

I remember the contraversy here on Film-Tech with all the people, including the Grand Poo-Bah, who missed the Episode III teaser in their can just because it said "Sand Dog (Fox)" on it. They knew they were missing Episode III, which was a Fox film, and they had a "Sand Dog" which was labeled as a Fox film, and it never occured to anyone to unspool it and see what it was. This all caused a huge uproar among - well, almost everyone. The Star Wars fans were pissed because the trailer wasn't there, the theaters were pissed because (they thought) they didn't get the trailer.... it was a big hubbub.

The second Episode III trailer was code named "Bosco" but with all the problems Sand Dog created, I guess they chose not to include that code name on the trailer itself. It was only used on the DTS disks.

I don't mean any offense, but I just don't get the level of confusion that this causes.

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Mike Blakesley
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I've never had any problems with code names on films, but a Star Wars III poster sat unused for months because it had some goofy code name on the mailing label on the tube.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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If you're in a multiplex and you know you are getting X number of prints for a film surely it's obvious if several prints with the same stupid name turn up?

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Brad Miller
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Trivia time! What movie do I have when I say "I just got in a print and the leaders say 'Changing Seasons' on it"?

This practice is bad enough when the cans are mislabeled, but when the LEADERS have fake names and the freakin' TRAILERS are mislabeled, that's taking it way too far.

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John Hawkinson
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Of course, Brad, we remember that it was The Lord of The Rings: Fellowship of the Ring. [ok, I admit, I didn't remember if it was Fellowship or Two Towers and I had to go back and look...]

--jhawk

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Darryl Spicer
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was that the first lord of the rings Fellowship of the rings?

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Brad Miller
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quote:
Of course, Brad, we remember that it was The Lord of The Rings: Fellowship of the Ring.
Keyword there being WE. Do you remember what "The Dunce Incident" was?

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Mark J. Marshall
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I'll go out on a limb and say that it was whatever film you were expecting to receive.

And they aren't mislabeled. They're correctly labeled with their code names.

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Brad Miller
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Actually no, but that isn't the point.

This makes me wonder...how many of you take a big fat marker and write all over the labels on the cans what the REAL title of the movie is? [Big Grin]

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Ron Curran
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Yes Brad, we do that. And we cross out the spool numbers on the boxes and re-number consecutively. If we have time on break-up night, we also mark the image and sound formats on the boxes.

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