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Louis Bornwasser
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From: prospect ky usa
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 - posted 10-09-2006 03:34 PM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Over the last 30 years, I have worked with 5 women operators who did the job extremely well....also cleanest booths in town. I have never met a woman who did an average or lower job. I wish I could say the same for the guys....quality from wonderful to "fire this guy." Louis

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Kacie MacLagan
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From: Portage, MI, United States
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I can say that I am one of the few female projectionists in my circuit. Out of 7 projectionists at my building 3 of us are female. One... she does well, but can't troubleshoot real well. In the other theaters in our circuit there are a couple of females throughout.

For the most part, I feel that as a woman, I can do the job just as well (if not better at times) then the men. There are things that I know I cannot do since I am a female and just don't have the same strength as the men do. But I can for the most part hold my own.

I can say also, that some females do not belong in the booth even if they are up there. I feel if you can't move a print or handle the everyday operation correctly (male or female) then you don't belong there. But that is not an issue of Male/Female.

I know some men who can't handle the job. The only problem with women is sometimes height and some heavy lifting. But that's my opinion.

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Charles Greenlee
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Yeah, I find that my ligher physique add many challenges to the physical aspect of the job. Pearl Harbor, to name one of my struggles, amongst several movies approaching 3 hrs and longer. I came in one day, and the thurs. night projectionist didn't move the prints to their new screens. So I had to, not normally a problem, I moved like 5 prints that day, all part of the job. Well I forgot to mentioned I could get no one to help. I have moved my share of prints by my lonsome, thanks to the clamps, but for safety and to make it easier, I usually enlist help. Like I said, could find no one (willing) to help me, not even a door person. 3 frakking 3 hour prints, each weight, I don't know, ALOT. Not to mention the odd handling angles and maneuvers required. I even had one of the managers walk up to me while carrying the print, oviously struggling, doing the little stagger walk bit. He laughs and goes "That looks heavy" and watches for enough time for him to have helped. I swear, if I had a safe (for the print) way of dropping it, and beating his head in with a ring or something. Sling the damn movie at him, let him see just how heavy it is. But I had alot to do that day, and not much time, and no one was going to help. Lets help with the visual. I'm 6'1", and 130lbs on a good day, not by choice, just can't put on weight. I'd do good to wrestle a 5 year old. And movie 3 hour movies by myself.

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Dominic Espinosa
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This topic used to come up with me and an old manager. A woman who COULD do the job but chose not to always and I mean ALWAYS argued with me about training the supervisors (usually girls) to be run the booth.
In my experience most girls catch on faster and run tighter shifts with less errors than the boys. I have no idea why that is.

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Cameron Glendinning
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I have only good things to say about all the many females that I have worked with or shared the booth with.

I once worked with someone who was a second generation projectionist in london, his mum was one during world war 2 and passed on her passion for it.

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Edwin Sheldon
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Charles, I worked with a crazy old projectionist who insisted on moving all prints by himself without clamps, regardless of size. He claims he moved a LOTR print by himself without clamps...this guy can't be bigger than 5'6" and 150lbs. Crazy son of a bitch.

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Frank Angel
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My very first full-time job in Texas in an 800 seat theatre, The College Theatre on the outskirts of Texas A&M U. The chief projectionist there was a women, Peggy, and she was great. She was an old gal (at least to me), maybe in her 40s who evidently had already been working here for many years -- this goes way back to the late 60s. So yes, women have been in booths for decades. And like most have said, she was meticulous and very conscientious, and had strict rules about cleaning the machines, the floor....everything. She taught me quite a bit. You let any of it slide and she would let you know in no uncertain terms that you were skating on thin ice. You didn't want to get Peggy pissed! I really loved the ole girl. She would often bring me sandwiches and home baked pie when I had the early shift and she came in to relieve me. It was one of the best jobs I ever had.

A few years after I left and got work in big time New York city, I went back to visit -- had to work on divorce papers (job was great....other stuff, not so much) -- and I went back to see the place. Peggy was no longer working there, but all the other people were and my old boss wanted to take me out to dinner, but I begged him to give the projectionist the night off and let me be the "guest projectionist" for the two last shows, which he did, and brought up a whole tray of texmex food and we ate it in the booth, for which Peggy would have scolded us roundly.

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Richard Hamilton
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At the Movie Wonderland in Changchun China, they have 3 attractions which have 8/70 projectors. All 3 booths are run by girls. The techs are guys. The only English words the girls know are "Hi Rick", so training them was fun! They are the best run booths I've seen. In the 3D booth, there are typically 6 workers. 1 at each projector, 1 at each platter, 1 at the sound racks, and 1 overseeing everything. When the film starts, a girl sits in a chair by each platter the entire show, and the other girls just keep an eye on the booth and equipment.

These are the cleanest and best run booths I have seen. I only know of 1 other large format theater that has a girl operator. As far as commercial theaters, I've been in many booths that have girl projectionists.

Rick

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Charles Greenlee
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We have Beth. She's an old salt, kind of personality. I'l still learning to read her, because she comes acros a crass and crabby. But so far so good. She's been with Regal, or one of it's component companies, as a projectionist for something like 35 years. Tough the booth pretty much defaults to me, she has senoirity. And on the rare occasion she speaks up, people listen. I'd like to get a more talkative relatioship with her, because I think we're similar in the booth. She just has 30+ years on me, which would do good for me to pick up some ideas.

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Kacie MacLagan
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quote:
Charles Greenlee: I'm 6'1", and 130lbs on a good day..
Charles I can say that you have a lot on me. I'm 5'3" 97lbs. But I can still lift and move a 7-8 reel movie on my own. Anything more than that, I almost die. I had to have someone else move 'King Kong' Wasn't even going to try that one.

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Richard Hamilton : All 3 booths are run by girls. The techs are guys.
I guess I'm the odd ball in this mess. I'm both a projectionists and part-time tech. I can say that one of the main reasons why I'm so meticulous about things. I have to fix it if anything breaks. Plus now that I know the tech aspect of things I know more about how things should be done. I always did my work the best I could presentation-wise, but now that I know more... The little things now bug me if it's not perfect.

I can say however, we did have a female up in the booth who really shouldn't have been there at all. We've had two who just didn't take pride or care in their work. But on the other hand we've had more men for some reason that are the same way.

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Bob Koch
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Of course this from the prehistoric dark ages but 56 years ago Wyoming was my territory{RCA} and I had two women in the projection rooms.In a little coal mining town called Superior, there was a woman "operator". I had`nt seen her and as I serviced the equipment in the afternoon; all junk; reg Simplex with single bearing intermittents, Peerless Low arc lamps, and other assorted crap. I couldnt help but notice how clean all this junk was kept. I was in the booth writing my report when she showed up for work. A pretty woman dressed like she`d just come out of the kitchen at home; apron and all, and a very cute little boy about five. I watched her
get the show ready and put the feature on the screen, all quite competently, when all of a sudden she did the damndest thing, with picture on the screen, she decided to clean the front surface of the lens by giving it a quick wipe with
the corner of her apron.
The other woman was in Rock Springs and was the widow of the business agent,[Rock Springs was union then]who had been a good Projectionist, a great mechanic but had a devotion to the"sauce"that took him early. He had evidently taught Jenny how to work in the projecrtion room. As they had two small children the other "brothers" decided to keep her employed so she could suppoprt them. She did reasonably well in the booth, but damn near got killed in a film fire in the old Grand Theatre. Last film fire I cleaned up after. WE universal base etc.Hell of a job.

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Aaron Mehocic
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We had a female projectionist some years ago who dressed so poorly for her booth shifts that the owners began to require operators to wear uniforms. She went on to marry the manager and both are now gone.

Currently I'm working with more females in the booth than at any other time in my nearly 16 years in this business. Some are good and others still need some additional training. I've never met any female operators who were more clean or more tight with presentation than a male counterpart.

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Donna Siegwart
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For about a year we ONLY had female projectionists. (One was myself.) We had about 5 or 6 projectionists. We finally are getting some guys up there, only about 3 of the projectionists actually LIKED their jobs, most just wanted a promotion away from floor. Luckly now we are giving raises to two new projectionists, one guy and one girl. They both seem to be very excited about working in the booth (not just for the raise). And we have ONE guy projectionist but hes really sloppy and leaves stuff everywhere. We once had a guy leave a make-up table on while he went on the other side of the building and one of our platters fell off a projector due to him not paying attention to his work. Luckly we could fix that problem. I think its funny when people say they dont see many women in booth cuz we have always had alot of women in booth here [Smile]

[Big Grin] We used to correct people when they would refer to the projectionist as "he" or "him". That was back when we only had women running the films.

EDIT: Also to what was said earlier about women being on their phones all the time, our male projectionists are just as bad as the girls [Wink] I think it just depends on the person.

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Jeremy Jorgenson
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I've never found a correlation between gender and projection abilities. I've had female counterparts in the 35mm, 8/70 and 15/70 booths that I've worked in ... some were good, some weren't - in no different proportion than the male counterparts I've worked with.

It IS true, however, that every booth I've worked in has had more male projectionists than female ones.

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Kara Tillotson
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interesting topic.
Thats one of my next goals, to learn projection. I already am "technilogically advanced" and have always found the whole concept cool

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