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Jack Ondracek
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From: Port Orchard, WA, USA
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 - posted 12-11-2006 05:57 PM      Profile for Jack Ondracek   Author's Homepage   Email Jack Ondracek   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Regardless what your experience is, it's only wise to assume as a matter of course that a used print needs closer inspection, including a search for the "other guy's" cues.

There's always going to be someone who doesn't care who gets his print next, and it's unlikely that any of us will change that here.

Besides... I wouldn't use the last guy's cues anyway... even if they were where they needed to be (which isn't likely). I want MY cues and MY tape on there, laid in the way I place them. I have a lot more confindence in the operation that way.

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 12-12-2006 02:57 AM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
..cuz, yu don't know if those cues are worn out or not. I do the same thing: same place on the film, but don't trust them to work, thus replace them with my own.

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Gilles Elbhar
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From: pavillons sous bois / France
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 - posted 12-15-2006 04:10 PM      Profile for Gilles Elbhar   Author's Homepage   Email Gilles Elbhar   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have this probleme.
I work in theatre who get films about six weeks out. There is + - 40 movies. I build 5 movies / week (some time more !). Cues are always in the same area - the end. If I do not find it, I look at the movie during exibition. But cues can be in the middle of the movie, because they come from dual projectors (rock'n'roll) or other system. I have bad surprise.

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Frank Angel
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 - posted 12-17-2006 03:18 PM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jack is right....same as packing your own parachute! [Smile]

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Ron Curran
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Springwood NSW Australia
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 - posted 12-20-2006 05:34 PM      Profile for Ron Curran   Author's Homepage   Email Ron Curran   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I just removed several cues from a print. They were edge cues covering all sound track formats.

That can't be a good position.

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Mike Blakesley
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Won't matter if it's DTS or Sony....analog or Dolby, yes: Bad.

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Ron Curran
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Yes, Mike. I was thinking that as our print of Charlotte's Web was running in DTS. In the first week, before we received the discs, Dolby Digital would dorp out at a lab join.

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Jeff Logan
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From: Mitchell, SD, USA
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 - posted 12-25-2006 11:29 AM      Profile for Jeff Logan   Email Jeff Logan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The defensive driving analogy really sums it up. You're responsible for what happens in your own booth.
I appreciate when the previous projectionist removes the cues; but this can cause a more serious and devious problem to find....when you remove your cues, REMOVE THE ADHESIVE RESIDUE THE CUE TAPE LEAVES BEHIND! I've had some show shutdowns and a few nasty brain wraps caused by cue tape adhesive left on the film. This adhesive is hard to see during inspection and unless you're touching that part of the film (you shouldn't be touching where center cues were), you won't find them. The power of the rewind overcomes the adhesive, but the adhesive is strong enough to pull another layer into the brain and cause a shutdown when running.
When I remove cues, I use a solvent (aeresol contact cleaner is handy but expensive) to disolve the adhesive and wipe it off with a soft cloth. The solvent disolves the ahesive but doesn't disturb the emulsion.
When someone leaves their old cues on the film, at least I can easily find them and remove any problem causing adhesive.

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Jeff Logan
When I remove cues, I use a solvent (aeresol contact cleaner is handy but expensive) to disolve the adhesive and wipe it off with a soft cloth.
... and a small squirt of Film-Guard on the corner of a rag does very good as well...

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