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Brad Miller
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I am assuming Lyle has not seen this yet.

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Joel N. Weber II
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quote: Louis Bornwasser
Given that dts 6 and 6d units are really 386 mainframes, would it be too much to add a hard drive, mounted externally? We already have the computer power and 2 or 3 input drives. Louis
Computers typically see CD drives as being a fairly different sort of animal than a hard drive, and the software for the 6/6D never knew anything about dealing with a hard drive, so if you connected a hard drive, I doubt it would do anything useful with that hard drive.

I also thought the 6D came with a 486 and not a 386. But maybe that depends on the exact vintage; and I think the 6D that I've seen disassembled ended up with a non-DTS motherboard (but of course, it still has all the DTS ISA cards).

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Joel N. Weber II
and the software for the 6/6D never knew anything about dealing with a hard drive, so if you connected a hard drive, I doubt it would do anything useful with that hard drive.

...the problem still lies with the boot record - which is on the discs, and the system (either 386/486 processor) still needs that boot record to work with the AQRM card to initialize boot sequence...and, once again, with a SCSI HDD drive addressed in the chain with a boot record installed to perform boot sequence.

When you turn on these older units without discs, it's like the system is stuck at the end of the POST sequence-waiting for a boot kernel from an external source to begin initalize the system. The same is when you pop open the trays: system is resetting (warm boot) itself to accept the boot record again from the external source.

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Gordon McLeod
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The DTS software appears to actually look for the signature of the model of CD Rom drive used and if it can't see the specific supported drives it will not work reliably

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Also don't forget that the 6, 6D units run on DOS and the XD-10 runs on Linux.

Mark

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Monte L Fullmer
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..plus, an interesting side note is that you can even use APPLE SCSI drives in these DOS based units - as long as you have the v.1.46 firmware update and address the drives accordingly.

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