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Topic: I got an interview to be a projectionist at The Majestic!

Mark Strube
Master Film Handler

Posts: 322
From: Milwaukee, WI, United States
Registered: Feb 2007

posted 03-05-2007 05:57 PM

Well, playing nice goes both ways. Just because you may be older than me with more experience in this field, doesn't give you a reason to be rude.

I realize you may feel the need to defend your own, but really... if someone's going to bother to insult me, they can at least bother to catch up on the thread.

If I get the job, I'll try not to get any nacho cheese on the film... although who doesn't like a good cheese platter?

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Tim Asten
Film Handler

Posts: 98
From: Brighton, United Kingdom
Registered: Nov 2006

posted 03-05-2007 06:29 PM

I cannot believe the way Mark has been treated by some on this site. We should be encouraging enthusiastic newcomers not slagging them off. Ok, he should not have used words like tinkering etc, but I am sure he knows that now. He admits he has no experience, but he is enthusiastic and willing to learn. Does that not sound like most of us when we first asked for a job?, so come on give the guy a break. Only Mark himself will find out whether he is suited for the job-If he isn't,at least he would have given it a shot. Mark! your computer knowledge WILL be beneficial, as a logical mind is needed in this kind of job and lets face it, its going to be all programming computers anyway in a few years. Just one word of advice if you do get a trainee's position, NEVER assume you know it all after only a few months and always respect and be willing to learn from those who have been in this business a long time. If you have that attitude and are willing to work hard for crap money, you should be ok. either way let us know how you get on, even if its not job you hoped it would be. Good luck. [thumbsup]

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Mark Strube
Master Film Handler

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From: Milwaukee, WI, United States
Registered: Feb 2007

posted 03-05-2007 06:31 PM

Thank you, Tim. The manager actually mentioned to me that my networking experience will come in handy, since many of their projectors will soon be digital.

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Cameron Glendinning
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 845
From: West Ryde, Sydney, NSW Australia
Registered: Dec 2005

posted 03-06-2007 03:05 AM

Congratulations on getting your new job young man! Hopefully you will get a chance to work with film before it disappears. There is something special about it!

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Frank Dubrois
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 896
From: Cleveland, OH
Registered: Mar 2005

posted 03-06-2007 07:58 AM

I don't think he got it yet...and I honestly don't think he will.

You need thicker skin than what you have Mark. If you can't take some honest answers and maybe a little kidding, then how will you react to people who complain to you about the projection? Will you be understanding and apologetic? OR will you be rude and arrogant looking down the end of your nose at these mere PEONS who know nothing about projection?

To be 100% honest, you really come off as seeming like you know all about projection because you can hear good sound or know when a picture is blurry. So what?!? You haven't given us anything here to even remotely beleive you know ANYTHING about the real world of projection. I DO encourage new comers and people who want to learn about projection, but not if they come in with an attitude like yours. Your all ready to blow off this site because of some honest answers...well, good luck to you, because without this site, you will truely be lost. This is your best source of info. These people that are cautiously welcoming you are the same people that will give you the answers you need to look good to your boss when something goes wrong. I think the Majestic deserves better than an arrogant kid like you for their first projectionist.

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Christopher Meredith
Expert Film Handler

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From: Jackson, MS, USA
Registered: Apr 2006

posted 03-06-2007 10:34 AM

I don't think he's coming off as arrogant at all. And even though he has no experience actually working in a projection booth, I bet he knows more about good presentation than most of y'all did before you got your first theater job.

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Mark Strube
Master Film Handler

Posts: 322
From: Milwaukee, WI, United States
Registered: Feb 2007

posted 03-06-2007 12:22 PM

quote: Frank Dubrois
OR will you be rude and arrogant looking down the end of your nose at these mere PEONS who know nothing about projection?

Ah, so like many of the replies in this thread. Right. Now at what point did I act like I know how to work a projection booth just because I know a good presentation when I see it?

quote: Frank Dubrois
So what?!? You haven't given us anything here to even remotely beleive you know ANYTHING about the real world of projection.

Do you think I'm here to learn about knitting? Why else would I be here? That's why I'd like to be trained my friend. At one point here I'm told they want a "blank slate" to train, who knows absolutely nothing about it (and I'm sure enthusiasm and interest in the job like mine can't hurt)... and then you write something like that. Which is it then?

quote: Frank Dubrois
I DO encourage new comers and people who want to learn about projection, but not if they come in with an attitude like yours.

If you consider only mentioning that I have a good amount of knowledge in home theater technology and not putting up with personal insults an "attitude," you're the one who needs thicker skin.

quote: Frank Dubrois
I think the Majestic deserves better than an arrogant kid like you for their first projectionist.

I'll probably be the 3rd or 4th. I'll be working my way up from the floor staff.

quote: Frank Dubrois
Your all ready to blow off this site because of some honest answers...well, good luck to you, because without this site, you will truely be lost. This is your best source of info.

Film-Tech hasn't been deleted from my bookmarks toolbar yet. But negative posts like yours are making me strongly consider either that, or turning into a lurker.

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Alex Grueneberg
Expert Film Handler

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From: Chicago, IL
Registered: Aug 2004

posted 03-06-2007 02:43 PM

Its not so much that some are going to blow off this site, but its the fact that whenever some good decision topic gets started up its bombarded with personal opinions and flaming and there is really no actual good discussion. I dont understand this site if members are not going to have mutual respect for people newer to the industry.

Because honestly guys. Its people like Mark I'd want in my booth, because I'm stuck with someone who just wants a paycheck and to get away from customers and do the bare minimum.

It'd be great if we had a forum to chat about the daily hurtles of projection, working with others, setting a new standard, as well as common threading chit-chat with specific projectors in a organized fashion. And I wish this were the place, but apparently its really not.

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Mike Blakesley
Film God

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From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99

posted 03-06-2007 03:10 PM

quote: Alex Grueneberg
bombarded with personal opinions

Uh, if you don't want personal opinions there's not much point in having a forum at all.

To hopefully get back on track....Mark, when is your interview?

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Mark Strube
Master Film Handler

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From: Milwaukee, WI, United States
Registered: Feb 2007

posted 03-06-2007 03:24 PM

The interview was last Friday, and it went extremely well. The manager said I'd definitely be hearing from him (in that certain tone where you can tell they're very interested in hiring you). Call backs are this week sometime, didn't say when. Any ideas what that might involve?

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Frank Dubrois
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 896
From: Cleveland, OH
Registered: Mar 2005

posted 03-06-2007 04:11 PM

quote: Alex Grueneberg
Because honestly guys. Its people like Mark I'd want in my booth, because I'm stuck with someone who just wants a paycheck and to get away from customers and do the bare minimum.

I've had that type in my booth. Adjusting things to his own personal standards. Tinkering and putzing around with stuff until he breaks it. You like the type? You can hire the type.

quote: Mark Strube
That's why I'd like to be trained my friend. At one point here I'm told they want a "blank slate" to train, who knows absolutely nothing about it

This is true, a TRUELY blank slate is good. A blank slate withing the organization (ground floor) is even better. YOU are not a blank slate. I think you went into this with many assumptions and preconceptions. I can't put my finger on it, but you simply come off as the type of person that will only learn the information he feels is pertinent to the job. We are just telling you what we know and what we feel. Those are our OPINIONS. You asked for them. you didn't put any restrictions on our opinions as to what you DO want to hear and what you dont. You either want to know what the job is all about or you don't. You couldnt come to a better place to find out, and you did, now your not happy. This site is populated with projectionists, managment, general workers, business owners and technicians (probably more, but just keeping the list short), so if you wanted the best, most honest opinions, this was the place to come. Sorry that the all of the opinions didn't conform to what you wanted to hear. Personally, if you have a passion for the job and want to do this long term, then I hope you get it, learn it, and make that a great movie experience for the patrons.

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Mark Strube
Master Film Handler

Posts: 322
From: Milwaukee, WI, United States
Registered: Feb 2007

posted 03-06-2007 04:25 PM

In that case, you would never hire anyone who expresses any interest in putting on a great presentation, with any idea whatsoever of what a correctly focused image looks like, or what to listen for if there's issues with the sound system. If a lot of managers hire like you, that would explain a lot of the shitty presentations I consistently see around here.

I find it funny that you just posted this in another thread, while saying you'd not hire me since I'm so interested in a good presentation I might be a "tinker."

quote:
Hire as many crappy workers as you can, keep them for the summer, then fire them before they get a raise... We don't get good employees that care because corporate America doesnt care about quality, only the bottom line. One well trained, high quality, caring employee can do the work of 2 slackers, easily. You do the math. Obviously this cant be explained to accountants, but its truth.

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Frank Dubrois
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Cleveland, OH
Registered: Mar 2005

posted 03-06-2007 05:56 PM

quote: Mark Strube
In that case, you would never hire anyone who expresses any interest in putting on a great presentation, with any idea whatsoever of what a correctly focused image looks like, or what to listen for if there's issues with the sound system. If a lot of managers hire like you, that would explain a lot of the shitty presentations I consistently see around here.

My point is, other than being a movie going customer, what the hell do you know about PUTTING ON a good presentation. NOTHING. A five year old can tell when a picture is out of focus, my guess is, at this point, the five year old would know about as much as you do as how to fix it. You come off thinking you know all about how to put on a great presentation...you know JACK. You know how to turn on your TV, put in a DVD, and turn on your stereo. Big deal. Dolby Digital and DTS are freakin MENU selections to you.....

As for the other post, you didn't understand, so I won't bother explaining.

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Mark Strube
Master Film Handler

Posts: 322
From: Milwaukee, WI, United States
Registered: Feb 2007

posted 03-06-2007 06:09 PM

quote: Frank Dubrois
A five year old can tell when a picture is out of focus

Then I guess many of the local theaters are hiring three year olds.

quote: Frank Dubrois
OR will you be rude and arrogant looking down the end of your nose at these mere PEONS who know nothing about projection?

Take a look at your last post, and try to tell me that's not what you just did. I'll try not to laugh.

I think I've gone out of my way here to point out how much I care about a good presentation... at no point was I trying to convince you that means I know how to work the equipment, I've repeated my willingness to be trained ad nauseam, which is why I don't understand how you keep coming back to this ridiculous assumption for some reason. You're clearly looking for a fight, and I'm not going to satisfy you anymore.

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Rick Raskin
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1100
From: Manassas Virginia
Registered: Jan 2003

posted 03-06-2007 06:23 PM

quote: Bill Enos
Difficulty with school often means difficulty taking direction or orders along with frustration in dealing with people.

With all due respect Mark, you refute every piece of advice you don't agree with. You could do well to LISTEN to what these guys are telling you and examine your own behavior at the same time. A little humility goes a long way; especially for someone new to the business. Film-techers will jump over backwards to help someone who shows a genuine interest and appreciation. However, with your tendency to argue every point you do nothing to win their respect. Instead you do everything to put them off. No one here wishes you ill will, but as I see it, they are getting tired of your whining. Grow up!

BTW, I hope you get the job so you can find out first hand what its really like.

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