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Author Topic: Gate Focus problem on Century Model C Projector Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-03-2007 11:03 AM                     In this case John, the advice is good for all applications. Steve  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-03-2007 11:18 AM                     Actually John.... Tim is correct on this post ... But the best thing to do is to completely remove those guides... but don't throw them away as the tech may need to use one of them to set the gate depth(on an SA). Not only do they do absolutely nothing they also make cleaning the trap very difficult. Removing them in every case has also improved lateral steadiness since the film is not bouncing off the rails. I rarely leave them on and cleaning things gets to be alot easier. Mark  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-03-2007 11:21 AM                     I see I was unclear...I wasn't suggesting it was wrong to remove them. I was trying to say that I think it's important to say WHY. Sorry about that. So, why is it good to remove the studio guides? What changed such that their presence became a liability, or was it just a bad engineering decision? --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-03-2007 12:09 PM                        Should they be removed on SAs, too? And how does one use them to set the gate depth?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-03-2007 02:38 PM                     quote: Scott Norwood Should they be removed on SAs, too? And how does one use them to set the gate depth? Yes... even with the factory gauge they still can pose more of a problem than not and literally... there is no need for them except setting the 1/4" gate depth accurately. The setting is covered in the SA instruction Manual... page 15, here on F-T. Mark  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-03-2007 03:54 PM                     Pay no attention to Mark anymore...his mind rambles... On straight gates, the studio guides form the stop for the gate mechanism. On rare occasions, I've had to remove one guide or the other because of film interferrence...other than that, never the need and they make sliding the aperture plate in much easier (and block light leakage). As far as guides go...I don't like em so spreading them is good enough for me.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-03-2007 04:07 PM                     quote: Steve Guttag On straight gates, the studio guides form the stop for the gate mechanism. Not if the machine is assembled right. The knob, in fact all Century Gate knobs should stop the gate AND lock it in place. Every Century model I've worked on is this way, even the VV machines are which are also straight gate... Mark  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 05-03-2007 07:40 PM                        Spreading them is good enough for me, too. Part of this problem lies at the foot of Jerry Kambel who, at ORC, set every one of them to less than 35.000 mm. Louis  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 05-03-2007 10:14 PM                       quote: Mark Gulbrandsen Actually John.... Tim is correct on this post ...but not on any others?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-04-2007 07:22 AM                     quote: Tim Reed ...but not on any others? Donno, I don't usually read your posts..... quote: Louis Bornwasser was the last to post Spreading them is good enough for me Louis... you must stock those Q-Tips and tooth picks with the 90 degree bend in them!  |  IP: Logged Amanda Mundin Expert Film Handler Posts: 122 From: Belper, Derbyshire, UK Registered: Sep 2005 posted 05-04-2007 02:20 PM                     Does this also apply to the Westar 2001 too, that the studio guides should either be spread wide or removed? Not sure if the Westar 2001 is basically the same projector as the Century C but by a different name or not, but looking at the manual it looks very similar.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-04-2007 08:51 PM                     Westrex was built under license of Century in the deal that allowed the Western Electric patents to be used in the cnetury soundhead The Westar is better built than many centurys  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 05-04-2007 09:22 PM                        I am told that Westrex #1-50 were actually rebranded Century C. Louis  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-04-2007 09:36 PM                     My boss was for many years the US factory tech. for Westrex USA. So we do have many of the Century clones out here and a pair of Model 5000's still churning away. The amazing thing is that all of them all have their original gear trains and intermittents and all of them run like a million bucks. Back when someone actually knew how to build projectors.... Mark  |  IP: Logged

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