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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 07-22-2007 09:07 PM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
you'r drivin slow in the left lane again....

.... ..been told that one before. Guess,I'd better find the gas pedal and use it, or lose it . [Big Grin] ..

Let's speed this one up a bit then: Would a tight intermittent shaft coller cause any of these above conditions?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Yes, possibly.

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Randy Bowden
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This has been an interesting thread. don't get me started on the poor quality of the metal that strong uses. I have had quite a few of the strong built simplex intermittents in my shop where both flywheel screws had completely sheared off. I always replace them with the lavezzi version. I also like to use brand new lavezzi oil drain screws on every century intermittent that I rebuild, the strong version is rather easy to snap the head off. How would you like to deal with that in the field? BTW I have NEVER had a single lavezzi oil drain screw break on me.

[ 07-29-2007, 01:23 AM: Message edited by: Randy Bowden ]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Randy,

No Doubt that Strong is getting their hardware from the same lame factory in Singapore (or was that Krakatoa) that makes their bearings.... [Eek!] . Absolute crap!

Mark

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Louis Bornwasser
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To be fair; Simplexs had this problem as far back as 1970. Louis

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Mark Farr-Nash
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Is Lavezzi a brand name for a type of screw?

Newbie Mark

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Randy Bowden
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What's even more scary Mark is that people will actually order bearings from Strong as opposed to just taking a trip down to the local bearing shop [Mad] Of course I could also complain about the poor design of the outboard bearing on the Ultramittent. I know Lavezzi builds the Ultra but did they actually design the thing? BTW I have a nice upgrade to that crappy bearing design. Perhaps sometime in the future I will post on this with pics.

Lavezzi is the manufacturer of a number of precision projector components, ie. starwheels and cam shafts. they sell the oil drain screw for the century as part number sc-1010 they also sell the washer stack that goes along with it. visit lavezzi.com sometime and you will find online photos of all the parts they are stocking. All in all I have very few complaints about Lavezzi.

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Louis Bornwasser
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Lavezzi: Like UPS, most of the time they are very very good; once-in-a-while they are very bad. Luckily the good is 99.5% of the time. Louis

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Randy Bowden
What's even more scary Mark is that people will actually order bearings from Strong as opposed to just taking a trip down to the local bearing shop Of course I could also complain about the poor design of the outboard bearing on the Ultramittent. I know Lavezzi builds the Ultra but did they actually design the thing? BTW I have a nice upgrade to that crappy bearing design. Perhaps sometime in the future I will post on this with pics.

Haven't had all that much trouble with outboard bearings in Ultramittents in the last few yers but would be interested in seeing your solution.

You're right on folks ordering bearings from Strong as replacements... There are much better bearings available just down the street in many cases. Another VERY GOOD reason not to use the Strong Service Organization for any booth maintainance, very likely the same crappy parts will be re-installed!!!

Mark

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Mark Farr-Nash
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Awesome sauce. Thanks for the tip. I'm going to check out Lavezzi right now.

Mark

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Monte L Fullmer
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Yea, nice thing about living in large populus areas is that their has to be at least one bearing house to get your bearings, especially if you know the bearing number-which is stamped either on the outer race or the bearing shield.

..and saving you a few sheckels per bearing in the meantime..

(yea, STRONG .. pretty scary stuff ...)

-Monte

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Michael Moore
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These days you don't need numbers on the race just a good micrometer.

does anyone know of a good source for fillister head bolts and screws? local hardware stores do not have them. I know I could use socket head cap screws but I like fillisters. I know of one source, fillisters
any idea of a better one?

Mike

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Eric Robinson
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I just googled the following web page when trying to figure out what a fillister screw was:

Types of Screw Heads

Until now, I was not aware of the many classifications of screw heads. I guess I spent too much time in woodshop.

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Steve Guttag
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There are more head types than those too. Michael, you will want to go to an industrial supplier rather than a local shop to get the type of hardware you want.

Steve

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John Hawkinson
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On the topic of alternative bearing sources, Monte writes, "especially if you know the bearing number-which is stamped either on the outer race or the bearing shield."

Michael Moore then says, "These days you don't need numbers on the race just a good micrometer."

Err, my understanding is that neither of those pieces of information are themselves sufficient. Correct me if I am wrong, please.

Replacing a bearing requires knowing the bearing grade (e.g. ABEC 7) as well as its dimensions, and a micrometer does not give you the grade. Furthermore, often the numbers stamped on the bearing do not give you either, though sometimes they may.

--jhawk

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