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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Robert E. Allen
Did I ever tell you I hate platters?

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Why I loved this Cinemeccanica 4x4 Tower (My apologies on inserting that previous pix. Edited it out due to nonapproval and added these others of a 3plex cinema which opened in 1977 that I used to work at that has been long closed down)

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and this Cinemeccanica V-18 setup [Big Grin] - Monte

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Wyatt Copeland
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Wow..that looks like it'd be a lot of fun!

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Brad Miller
If only my schedule wasn't so busy, I would make a how to video by intentionally slinging this very deserving print off of the platter and then putting it back together showing this technique.
The slinging part sounds good: it's working up the motivation to put it back together again that would give me problems!

Now a remake of 'Jailhouse Rock' starring Paris Hilton...

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Hugh McCullough
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Whilst it is very flattering to know that Film Tech people visit my site, and save some of my photographs (Cinemeccanica 4x4 Tower), would it not be good manners to give a site credit, or link?

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Ben Wales
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Interesting there still one Cinemeccancia Victoria 18 (like the one in the picture) still working in a single screen Cinema called the Palace Cinema, Bridport in Dorset, England.

The cinema was shut anout 7 years and reopened early this year ans still retains this projector, must be the last of this type in the UK?

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Jack Ondracek
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
Why I loved this Cinemeccanica 4x4 Tower

Not me. As inconsistent as any clutch-type takeup can be, those things were terrible... way too much tension at the start, not much at the end. I also didn't care for the fact that the projector had to pull the film off the feed reel... probably, I was already spoiled by the Sword.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Yes, I can see the concern on that variable clutch thing, but had all the clutches adjust justright where we never had any off-tension issues - for one really needed to know how to adjust that clutch assembly and find that sweet spot. Sorry, never ran EPRAD SWORDS only seen them at work, thus can't comment on them against the Cinemeccania versions. But, the SWORD system did look very effective in large reel operation - as with the MUTTS and the Mini MUTTS.

On takeoff with the 4X4 and even on the V-18's, we would do the thumb rest on the edge of the reel when payout began to keep the film taught right until the reel speed and film speed became constant.

Yet, the V-18's were tons superior to the 4X4 due to the stepping startup that the 3ph/208v projector motor had - system would begin with one phase so the motor would start slow then add another phase to the motor for gradual speed up then the last phase to ramp the motor to full speed.

With this 4X4 and these V-5 units, we didn't have that rampup luxury as did the V-8's, thus the thumb usage was the norm. Yet, these V-5's had one big problem and that was the motor's RPM was very low at operation - think these were rotating at 950RPM or such..

-Monte

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Bernard Tonks
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quote: Ben Wales
Interesting there still one Cinemeccancia Victoria 18 (like the one in the picture) still working in a single screen Cinema called the Palace Cinema, Bridport in Dorset, England.

The cinema was shut anout 7 years and reopened early this year ans still retains this projector, must be the last of this type in the UK?

I have some video footage of the Electric Palace Bridport, frontage, foyer, auditorium, and manager/projectionist Ken Wright being interviewed for TV during the days when the equipment was Westar projectors and carbon Peerless Magnarc’s, and again later when changed to the Cinemeccancia Victoria 18.

There's a picture somewhere of the original BTH sound equipment
with the sound-on-disc attachments left in situ until the Westar projectors were installed during the 1970's I believe.

The Electric Palace has almost been restored to its former glory with the hand painted pictures on the auditorium walls. There is a Panascope tour on the website.
http://www.electricpalace.org.uk/
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Gerard S. Cohen
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[QUOTE] [/Though I'm sure you can (now) get replacement pegs for the broken ring. Wouldn't hurt to get a bunch of them if your other rings are just as old.
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Sounds like the kids' story "For Want of a Horse Shoe Nail."
Who knew years ago that replacement pegs would become available?
Fortunately I like Chinese takeout, and in an emergency wedged a section of a hardwood bamboo chopstick into the ring, later securing it further with epoxy.

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Wyatt Copeland
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quote: Gerard S. Cohen
wedged a section of a hardwood bamboo chopstick into the ring
That is awesome! Our other projectionist just took the ring witht the broken peg, bent it, wrote a few choice words with a marker on it and tossed it in a corner. We still have our "Piece of @#$% used @#$%ty @#$% stupid @#$% ring." as a reminder.

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