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John Hawkinson
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Wow...this is embarassing, evidently I wasn't taught how to clean a Century C sufficiently...even though we clean the gate rails (technically Film Gate Pads, PA-{1,8,9}-E) religiously, somehow I always assumed that there was some magic that meant that the surface they mate with didn't need the same attention.

Removing the trap shows pretty clearly that you can get quite an accumulation on the film trap shoes (SH-15-E) -- right under/around the studio guides. How often is it recommended to remove the trap and clean those shoes (for a non-FilmGuard theatre)?

--jhawk

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 09-12-2007 05:32 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Again, if you remove the guides you won't have this problem. There are so many positive reasons I can think of to pull them. I took off three sets today.... lots and lots of gunk under them. They serve absolutely no purpose on a C model head except to accumulate gunk. The image steadiness can actually improve with out them and cleaning the rails is a cinch. Different with an SA as they are used to measure and set the gap when the gate is closed... I still yank em off SA's as well but keep them in the booth for doing the adjustment.

Mark

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Louis Bornwasser
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They help you insert the aperture plate, but (agreed) are otherwise useless. I "back 'em away" like Steve. Louis

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Inserting plates has never been a problem in either a C model or an SA... The main thing here is to remove them so cleaning is much simpler and all the crud is removed.

Mark

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Jack Ondracek
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Is there a chance the film stock might be an off-brand? If John's machines worked fine up to this point, maybe he got a print that wasn't slit right. ?? While I'm all for pulling the rails (done that... it works!), why is it that he's now having troubles with a system that had not been changed or worked on? The only real variables here are the film and any possible gunk between the rails.

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John Wilson
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...or someone who may be having an 'adjustment' moment.

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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 09-13-2007 10:49 AM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
No, it was Kodak 2383 from 2007.

Having actually taken the trap out (to finalize my adjustment of the studio guides), though, I could believe that some of the gunk on the trap shoes was sufficient to cause this problem, and that moving the studio guides was sufficient to dislodge it or cause its effect to be mitigated.

It's not a very compelling theory, but it's not totally implausible.

--jhawk

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