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Monte L Fullmer
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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
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 - posted 11-23-2007 01:48 PM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
hard striking could mean tired bulb with high hours, not enough startup voltage coming from the rectifier...etc.. Have you tried a new bulb in that lamphouse to see if the hard striking goes away?

Yea, best to leave the magnet alone.

Good luck-Monte

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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 11-23-2007 09:58 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Peter, what is your no-load voltage (voltage before striking), and what is the wattage and manufacturer/model of your bulb? This is the autostrike?

--jhawk

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 11-24-2007 02:53 AM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thx John for bringing that autostrike topic out. Yes, the relay on the autostrike board could be going bad as well ... for I've had a couple of them thinking on failing due to pitted contacts in the relays.

-Monte

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Michael Moore
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 - posted 05-10-2008 08:07 PM      Profile for Michael Moore   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Moore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I want to resurrect this issue because it is still persisting.

First I know in one of my early posts, that I stated the exhaust was work super well.. Well, I guess that is relative because I have nothing to compare it to. But I do know that when I was using 1000W bulbs I never had this flicker problem with this exhaust system.

This is what I changed; I went from 1000W osram bulb, to a 2000W ASL

I went from the old Kniesley rectifier to a IREM rectifier.

I just wonder if there is enough exhaust now that I have double the wattage?

So I have these new possible questions:

Could I have a problem with my exhaust fan. Well this is what the lamp house was installed with when I arrived at the theatre in 2000 and I have not changed it out.

http://www.rewci.com/fahprain4or51.html

I have another one of these fans and wonder if it would hurt if I use my plasma cutter and cut a new exhaust hole just in front of the factory exhaust and install a second fan. Wound this be a problem, maybe too much air flow?

I also wanted to know if maybe there is something wrong with the diodes in the IREM and if I should replace them, or what could be a good way to test to see if I need to replace them. Could a faulty diode cause some flicker?

I have moved the magnet all over the place and there is no net change in the flicker at the screen either way.

Mike

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Jeremy Weigel
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 - posted 05-10-2008 11:13 PM      Profile for Jeremy Weigel   Email Jeremy Weigel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Michael Moore
Could a faulty diode cause some flicker?
Yep. A bad diode will cause a strobing affect on screen if you're lucky enough that the bulb lit. Do you know how to test the diodes?

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Michael Moore
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I don't know how to test the diodes but If someone helps me out I probably have the equipment to do it.

Mike

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Jeremy Weigel
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I'll take some pics for ya when I go in tonight.

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Michael Moore
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 - posted 05-11-2008 06:22 PM      Profile for Michael Moore   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Moore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I fixed the problem!!!!! Wow that damn MAGNET!!!!

Got thinking about all the things that could go wrong with this lamp house, and nothing added up or sounded right. I then made the discussion to go back to the magnet. This is what I did to it:

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And well as you can see I really bent the hell out of the magnet, and it worked great! Flicker went away, and the light was more stable, without film and with film!

So I guess I solved this and I apologize for all this, I just was a little lost, and all along it was the magnet that I thought was not the problem

But thank you to all of you who have helped me so far.

Mike

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