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Ken Lackner
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Atlanta, GA, USA
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Yes. Kinda defeats the purpose if you ask me.

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Mike Blakesley
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Looks like TSA is going to try to ruin the freight industry the same way they're ruining the passenger airline industry.

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David Stambaugh
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quote: Mark J. Marshall
What's a TSA approved lock? A lock that the TSA has a key to?
Basically yes, like these and these. The first seller claims they'll replace any locks they sell you if TSA cuts them off.

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Andres Briano
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I canīt understand why you guys are not really pissed off about this. It sounds to me that there is no such thing as privacy in the States any more! You donīt have to take it if you donīt want to!

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David Stambaugh
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Well TSA is a government agency. Why wouldn't we trust them to go through our personal stuff? [Confused] [Wink]

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Mark J. Marshall
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I dunno. It seems kind of silly to me for the TSA to be focusing on a film can being shipped from a movie theater to a film depot. Unless they had a specific threat, which I suppose is possible.

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Chris Slycord
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Doesn't the item go through X-ray and a bomb detector anyway?

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Ron Funderburg
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Are there any nitrates left in movie film? I know x-ray film has nitrite in them (bomb sniffer dogs in hospitals go nuts on the floor where they store the x-rays). But movie film shouldn't set off any bomb detector.

I thought DHL and DHL express were the same company!

At what point does the quest for security make the price for that security higher than the price of the terror?

"Those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither" Ben Franklin 1776

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Chris Slycord
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DHL and DHL Express are the same company. DHL Express is one of the main divisions of DHL.

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Frank Angel
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quote: Kenneth Wuepper
DHL EXPRESS ( not DHL )will not accept sealed shipments. In talking to the representative for DHL EXPRESS our agent said that we would not make any shipments of film in unsealed film containers.
So they are saying EVERYTHING they ship to be in unsealed containers? What drugs are they shooting? So cartons are to be shipped without sealing tape? Surely someone was playing an April Fool's joke.

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Danial Simmonds
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From: Kota Damansara, Selangor, Malaysia
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April Fool!, the only problem I get here is when receiving Dolby Trailers, they think its illegal film in Malaysia Customs, but the great thing is that they don't inspect the film they will just wont approve it and request us to explain to them the contents...

Films are always sealed, its impossible and to dangerous just to ship a film thats not sealed, some idiot might think i can make big bucks its film! lets sell it and you will get an empty can.

It happened before... thats why everything we send is sealed. I don't know about TSA but they need to go to Film School and learn what is in the can.

Cellulose Nitrate was the base for projection films from 1895 to the 1940's i think i got to check back my study books... These days we use polyester so x-ray machines should be able to view the contents i guess.

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Mark Hajducki
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When returning digital drives to Dolby their instructions specify that the box should not be sealed, the DHL driver will seal the box after conducting a 'security check'

I have not been working on days the drives have been collected so I don't know what the check entails.

In the UK most film shipments are not sealed (closed but not sealed) with the exception of some first run prints and those in cardboard (or broken) boxes.

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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!

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It doesn't matter where the box/case is being shipped, nor where it came from, nor what is supposed to be in it. If it is going to ride in the US with people at some point in its journey it must be inspected prior to being locked or sealed with TSA Approved Locks.

When I was a ramper with Allegiant Air I got to see many many passenger bags come to us from TSA screening with the locks cut off. Many of those bags were left open too, which made a huge mess on our bag belts - lots of clothes and other personal stuff to clean up, let alone figure out which bag it might have come from. Loud complaints from our bag room supervisor were answered with a threat from the local TSA to have her arrested for arguing with federal officers.

The TSA does seem to be going overboard these days. Just before I left Allegiant, the TSA started to do more thorough inspections of the interiors of our planes. Now they check the life rafts in our overhead compartments, looking for evidence of stowaways, and putting seals on the doors to those compartments.

The TSA also banned all of Allegiant's mechanics at LAS from having access to the movement areas of the airport, saying that from now on only TSA staff and flight crews are allowed out there. We all had to turn in our SIDA badges and get new more restricted ones. The TSA also didn't like the way we parked some of our aircraft out on the holding pads, constantly complaining to the county department of aviation about how some of our planes weren't centered exactly on the T-lines. Like that was any of their business. On that point at least, the county finally had the guts to tell them to get lost.

It'll be fun to watch the TSA implement airport-style passenger screening on commuter rails and city buses, which is their next priority. Do you feel safe now?

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Mark Hajducki
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quote: Paul Mayer
It doesn't matter where the box/case is being shipped, nor where it came from, nor what is supposed to be in it. If it is going to ride in the US with people at some point in its journey it must be inspected prior to being locked or sealed with TSA Approved Locks.
In my case the parcel would not have gone anywhere near the USA (unless DHL have some very strange routings), and being next day could have just have travelled by road.

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John Hawkinson
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Err, Paul, DHL Express carries their freight (including films) on their own jets that don't carry passengers.

--jhawk

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