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Brad Miller
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You need to at least let them know this print will not play in SRD, so at least they can flag it as a dts only print.

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Mike Blakesley
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Yes, a note is already in the can.

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Bill Enos
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the note in the can will have no effect. I've received prints from TES and others with notes about sound and other problems, the ship them anyway.

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Mike Blakesley
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Maybe I should send the cans back empty, with a note "This print will not play in all sound formats, therefore it has been removed from circulation"

That would get their attention! [evil]

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Paul H. Rayton
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Agreed, Mike. I think the extent of the TES "inspection" is to slap on a new "ship to" label, and out the door it goes. Your note *will* at least serve to alert some future recipient that the SR.D is bad, and early enough in the booking for them to order DTS discs. Maybe. At least you tried!

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Brad Miller
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quote: Mike Blakesley
Maybe I should send the cans back empty, with a note "This print will not play in all sound formats, therefore it has been removed from circulation"
Best solution EVER for dealing with damaged film!!!

Take a Sharpie and mark "shit print - no SRD sound" all over the permanent labels on the cans. If you REALLY want to make sure it gets noticed, blacken out their barcodes (but make sure you leave the print number clean so they can credit the print to your theater). Without the barcode they will have to manually input it and at that point they can't possibly miss the note.

Make sure to word it with the word "shit print" in there. Naughty language tends to get more people's attention other than simply writing "no SRD". Also write that on a big piece of tape that holds every reel down. TES has to unravel the leaders and ensure it is the correct print before they ship to the next engagement.

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John Wilson
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quote: Marco Giustini
Am I wrong or the Bypass level of CP650 can be adjusted rotating the volume knob, even if the display does not indicate anything?
No, you are not wrong. You can adjust output level in bypass via the volume knob on the CP-650.

Our machines sometimes can take a while (by a while I mean a minute maybe) to come good when it finds meaty SRD track after a prolonged 'F' period...but they always comes good. As you've already said, it must be the print. Your SR sounds OK though, right?

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Mike Blakesley
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Yes, SR sounds good.

I think I found the problem...there is a very faint scuff along one side of the SR-D soundtrack going all the way through the print, covering about 1/3 of the soundtrack. It can't be seen looking directly at the film, but when I put a flashlight BEHIND the film, it showed up clear as day.

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Bill Gabel
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That scratch will do it and knock your SRD track out. That's what I had.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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A scuff would definately do it. Probably someone with a worn pad roller or worn gate part.

Mark

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Ron Curran
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You have just been lucky so far Mike, Unlike a $50 toaster, prints don't come with a warranty.

We sacrifice a virgin if we get a used Dolby Digital track that works.

I wish that film prints were available from Seconds World where you'd get a huge discount if the itam was scratched.

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John Wilson
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You could always request a Randwick print... [Wink]

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