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Carey Barber
Expert Film Handler

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From: Newport News, VA, USA
Registered: Jan 2003


 - posted 05-22-2008 09:27 PM      Profile for Carey Barber   Email Carey Barber   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So, do you generally use a full 15-20 minutes worth of test film on a reel?

(Sorry, if I am beating this to death, but I know that just 100ft of that 35PA is very expensive...I cannot imagine being allowed to purchase over a thousand ft.)

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System Notices
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Jason Metcalfe
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From: Austin, TX, U.S.
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Our Simplex Millenium has recently started to exhibit more horizontal movement and I'm having trouble determining the cause.

I've tightened the two screws that attach the gate support to the housing and also tightened the screw on the intermittent shoe pad and had a little success but there is still some movement.

We've only really had problems with vertical movement in the past so this problem is a bit foreign to me, I wanted to see if anyone had any ideas.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 08-08-2010 06:28 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
For what its worth, this is how I setup my loops. You can run them for hours and never put a scratch on them. Also when you are done running it, you can unthread it from the higher of the two rollers you see in the top picture and let it rest out of the way on the lower roller.

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Randy Bowden
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From: Portland, OR, USA
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 - posted 08-08-2010 06:46 PM      Profile for Randy Bowden   Email Randy Bowden   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jason, check your lateral film rollers in the top of the film trap. The inboard roller should push in and spring back easily, also the entire roller set should not be sloppy. Check for endplay on the star collar as well.

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Monte L Fullmer
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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
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Funny is that on one Simplex "XL" (same as the Mil2000) that I had to go service this last spring, is that the INT assembly was loose in the framing cam-the two assembly locking tabs were loose where the assembly would actually move in and out during operation causing the same horizontal weave issues.

Also, the end collar could be out of adustment (the "oil thickness" requirement between collar and the bracket) where there is excessive end play on the sprocket shaft making the sprocket shaft bounce in and out from the face of the cam.

..and I've seen gunk buildup on sprockets do somewhat the same thing ...

If you want to see steady projectors, shove a loop of 35PA in either a SuperSimplex or an E7 ...

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Eric Robinson
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Santa Rosa, CA
Registered: Jan 2005


 - posted 08-08-2010 09:44 PM      Profile for Eric Robinson   Email Eric Robinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Monte L Fullmer
..and I've seen gunk buildup on sprockets do somewhat the same thing ...
Yes, I was asked to fix a projector with a very jumpy picture, turned out...all I had to do was clean the intermittent sprocket.

Also, don't forget lens stability. If you got a crappy turret your lens holder might be vibrating, or your lens or lens elements could be vibrating.

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Monte L Fullmer
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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
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Yes, I forgot about that allen screw that loves to come out of the center of those turret lock assembly on those Milleniums, for that will prevent a secure lockdown on the turret.

Thx for reminding me on that one, for I used to make it a normal prevention method to check that allen screw when I would service Milleniums..

-Monte

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