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Author Topic: Anybody out there showed "My Fair Lady" recently? Michael Moore Expert Film Handler Posts: 188 From: Dover, DE / USA Registered: Jun 2006 posted 05-20-2008 08:28 AM                        Paul I agree there are far too many people out there who have no clue how to use a platter or reel to reel correctly. This is why I am the only one (basically) who projects at our theatre. I have two back-ups but neither are committed to wanting to really learn how to do it correctly. Mike  |  IP: Logged Paul H. Rayton Expert Film Handler Posts: 210 From: Los Angeles, CA , USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 05-30-2008 01:29 PM                    Sorry to be so long posting the accompanying photos, but it took me a bit of time to get back to this discussion with photos available. The photos are pretty self-explanatory, showing burns... And then there are the scratches ... This next one is the "trifecta" of my scratches photos: vertical, horizontal, and diagonal all on one frame. For your added viewing convenience, I've circled several of them... The final photo shows some of the shipping cases, on which someone has marked the print as "OK"... "OK"? Yeah, sure. So, if your theatre is thinking of scheduling this film in the near future, you may want to think twice...  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-30-2008 02:57 PM                        Maybe it's just a night scene, but that last clip looks faded to magenta also  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 05-30-2008 03:37 PM                        As the print has a DTS timecode on it, that print should have been struck many years after low-fade stock had been introduced. I agree that it looks a bit magenta-ish, but surely that has to be a function either of the original photography, or of the way the digital camera's CCD captured it, the PC it was fed in to later number-crunched it, or our browsers are doing something to it? I agree totally with Paul - if his pics are typical of the level of wear throughout the print, there's no way it should still be in circulation.  |  IP: Logged Paul H. Rayton Expert Film Handler Posts: 210 From: Los Angeles, CA , USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 05-30-2008 07:05 PM                    Actually, the "magenta" look was because I was not 100% color-balanced for the light source. I tried to get it "closer" with a blue filtration pack to approximate "daylight", but still the light source isn't exactly photo-correct. Additionally, in the original exposure, I increased the exposure time a bit to get more detail in the darker areas. I felt it needed the extra exposure to get the scratches to show up clearly, even though the image you see now is probably a bit "brighter" that it would appear on an actual screen. In point of fact, an illustration of a single frame scratch doesn't typically convey the full visceral degrading impact in such a single, static image. The primary villain in this photo (which is from reel #1) is the heavy diagonal scratch in the center of the frame. It progressively flicks across the screen, rolling upwards, higher and higher, and then the cycle repeats itself again. It's really nasty, right in the middle of that black overcoat that Rex Harrison is wearing. This "rolling scratch" lasts for the whole length of this reel. And not just that one reel, about 4 of the 12 reels are that bad. (And all others are scratched, but not quite as bad.) The burned areas, as mentioned when I started this thread, show up on screen as a kind of flickery/mottled mess. That phenomenon, unfortunatly, does not come across at all in still photos, but it's really ugly to watch!  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 05-30-2008 08:33 PM                     The burn marks are from a very poorly adjusted lamphouse. The scratches are from platter misthreads and sloppy handling. What a shame to see a restoration of such a classic film destroyed so quickly. On the brighter side, I just ran a pristine print of "The Graduate" in 35mm..... the studio didn't know this print existed at all, someone very persistent from my booking dept. helped to locate it.  |  IP: Logged

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