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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Kenneth Wuepper
was the doorman
[Wink] we had them do the same thing - being that we were also a union booth while our booth was just up the ramp to the balony.

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Sean Kapp
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Ours came all crammed into one Fox Box for the feature and the trailers came in a small metal reel can. DTS was tossed in the fox box. Luckily, we have a film elevator so it is just a short walk from booth to elevator [Cool]

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Justin Hamaker
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quote:
I love those plastic cans. But they're only meant to hold three reels (hint, hint, Deluxe!).
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I don't mean to nit pick, but as you can see, 4 reels fit very nicely into these cans. While I can't stand the hinges and latch, and I hate the handles, I have absolutely no complaints about how they hold film. In fact, these "cans" even have notches to hold the reels in place so that if there are only three reels, they won't slop all over during shipping.

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Monte L Fullmer
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..guess, with her case then, who loaded the reels in the cases from ETS, didn't lock them in the corresponding slots.

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Mike Blakesley
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I think those square cans are meant to hold three OR four reels. As noted, the notches are there to keep three reels from flopping around, and the DTS disks can ride comfortably alongside.

What irritates me is getting one of those where the three reels are just thrown higgledy-piggledy into the can and they wind up flopping around anyway.

I like the handles, but then I have big hands/long fingers. The handles could be a tad smaller in diameter and would then fit everyone. And, I'd like it better if they'd lopped off at one of the bottom corners (making it easier to get up stairs).

Obviously a tall guy with big hands designed these cans.

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Mike Blakesley
Obviously a tall guy with big hands designed these cans.
...prob was also the one who designed those 6k plastic shipping cases with those hideous plastic 6k reels that Warner and New Line used in the late '90's.

NOW, those were a POS to handle for sure!

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Jonathon Miller
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We got ours on plastic cores, in two boxes.

And yes, they were very friggin' lucky to cram it into seven reels.

Worse, no decent trailers. In fact, no trailers at all. We did however, have a request from Roadshow (Aus distributor) for no comps for the first two weeks (<i>including</i> staff!). Well, the memo re: staff came on the second day. I took the first night off and saw it somewhere other than my work.

Fucking annoying print all up. Solid (not outstanding) film though.

I think Paramount have Watchmen over here, so that was a slight disappointment in not seeing that trailer til it hit the web.

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Ian Price
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Ok, you yahoos, if they give you a can with nothing but trailers in it, don't go stuffing reels in it for the return. The idea was to not shelve the 2-reel can and only send out two cans for the sub-run. [Mad] Out of the 10 returns I received, only 3-theatres got it correct.

Golden rule, leave things like you found the, only better. [thumbsup]

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Frank Angel
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
....there is a trick in carrying can without having the handles of the can digging in that I've learned in the 35 plus years being a "film handler..: Wear gloves.

Oven mitts are prefect and nicely padded....and cheap. If they loose them or leave them somewhere (which they CONSTANTLY do) it's not a fortune to buy new ones. Buy them in black, if you can, not the ones with bright kitcheny colors with pictures of roasted turkeys or hams in the design. Black with no design is harder to find but it will stop the staff from being tempted to laugh and poke fun at whoever is wearing them to haul the print.

We are 5 1/2 flights up in the big theatre; believe me, you don't want to be carrying double features up to the booth on stairs, screw the oven mitts.

I made them buy a hefty motorized winch and we bolted it on one of the catwalks in the hang-ceiling, dropped the air craft cable with two carabina hooks on the end of it thru an 4 in hole we cut in the ceiling. There is also small stage weight near the end of the cable to keep it taught and winding evenly on the winch drum. In the booth, the control box -- one of those big rubberized AC controls with the dead-man's UP and DOWN buttons on it in at the followspot window. The winch cable hangs about a foot in front of this fairly large window, big enough to pull the two cans into the booth thru it. The projectionist just activates the winch to lower the cable to the floor where a stagehand hooks the two cans on it and the projectionist has the winch raise them up to the window. He can then simply reach out the window and pull the cans into the booth. Pretty nifty. I designed this after about the 4th or 5th show where I had to carry the print up the five & half flights of stairs. This was one mother of a hike and necessity is the mother of invention. I was like 23 at the time -- if I would try that climb today, had I not devised this system, they surely would find me dead on the 3rd floor landing.

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Tim Reed
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
This is how the labs should make up their prints though: nice FULL reels.
FWIW, "balancing" the reels is the responsibility of the film editor. The labs only print what they're given. [Smile]

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