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James Westbrook
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Playing trailers in release-date order also allows easier removal of trailers on the week the advertised film opens.
Trailer change-outs are a normal part of our routine, and that work sheet is drawn out on Monday when our bookings are confirmed.

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Justin Hamaker
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I also do them in release date order. But if I get something that I'm not sure is a good fit for the movie, I'll program that first so that it can be easily removed. I also try to make sure that new trailers for upcoming blockbusters play closest to the feature regardless of release date - for example when the trailer for the next Harry Potter came with The Mummy, that was the first trailer before the attached.

Regardless of studio requests, I will not program trailers that I don't feel are appropriate for the movie, or that I do not expect to play. I remove the attached trailer on about 5% of our prints because it's something I don't anticipate we will play - or at least something we won't get on the break. But usually when I remove the attached trailer, I make a point to add something from the same studio.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Justin Hamaker
I also try to make sure that new trailers for upcoming blockbusters play closest to the feature regardless of release date
Same here. The biggest upcoming blockbuster trailer goes next to the feature. Ideally, I want the audience buzzing with anticipation when the feature starts. (And if they sit in silence, I know that blockbuster may possibly not be one!)

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Joe Redifer
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I don't mind that they include the trailer or even request/demand that it be played. I just want them to include it as a stand alone trailer and not printed on Reel 1. I'm going to cut it anyway and place it as the first trailer just out of spite. My theater rarely gets movies that are advertised on the attached trailers.

On another note, why are 99% of trailers tail up? This can also be annoying in many cases (usually during trailer changes), though I guess I should be thankful that they at least picked a direction.

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Mike Blakesley
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I like tail-up trailers. I wind them onto a house reel and then run it onto the platter. I like to check and see if the stupid release dates are in the trailer and edit them out if necessary/possible.

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John Hawkinson
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Well, Joe, if they stop having attached trailers and just enclose them all, how will the studios convince you to play a particular one? If you get a paper note that says PLEASE PROGRAM THE ATTACHED TRAILER FOR MIRACLE AT ST. ANNA along with High School Musical 3, are you going to do it? Or are you going to pick from the enclosed trailers and show The Hobbit, A-Team, and Watchmen and Terminator?

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Chris Slycord
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If it is so essential that a specific trailer is played then they should work with whoever does the programming and strike up a deal to require a certain trailer to be shown at a certain spot.

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Craig Dunn
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We had one that was 2 perfs off.

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Ky Boyd
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Release date order for programming trailer is nice, but for scope films I prefer to put all the pillar bar trailers first and then the "full scope" ones so that once the image goes the full screen width it doesn't then shrink again.

Which brings up one of my rants...if the trailer has pillar bars why is it so damn difficult for the lab/studio/whoever to put an appropriate pillar bar'd rating tag on? It just looks dorky when the ratings tag is full width and then the rest of the trailer isn't.

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Joe Redifer
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Jiggidy j-phat,

Attaching a trailer doesn't convince me to run it. They could simply enclose it and include a note saying: "We will come and rape your eye socket if you don't play this trailer". I think that would suffice. Or the note could say "Play this trailer or your entire chain will never, ever, ever, ever get another movie from this studio again. We'll be checking. We have spies. We know you can't be trusted."

Also, why are there so many different variations of the green band tag? I'm not talking about just pillar-box and/or letterboxed, etc. I'm talking about the actual color, sharpness, font and all that. When a studio makes a trailer, do they look at a gallery of available green bands and say "Hmmm... this one looks pretty mucky, unsaturated and has blurry text. LET'S USE THIS ONE!!!!!" Or perhaps "This one is slightly out of frame. PERFECT!!!!" Or my favorite: "This one looks like the theater can't properly focus a xenon bulb to save their lives. THIS WILL ENHANCE OUR TRAILER!!"

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Brad Miller
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quote:
Or my favorite: "This one looks like the theater can't properly focus a xenon bulb to save their lives. THIS WILL ENHANCE OUR TRAILER!!"
Having soft focus or pale green backgrounds is one thing, but whenever I come across one of these green bands with dark corners like Joe mentioned above, in the trash it goes!!! ...along with all other copies of it on the shelf.

(Of course I also do the same thing on letterboxed trailers that are printed out of frame.)

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Jack Ondracek
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Do any of you recall seeing printed inserts that say something like, "your theatre's contract with us requires you to play the attached trailers"? I haven't seen it in a while, but I always thought that was amusing... mainly because, as an owner, I've never seen any such written requirement, and the attached trailers in those cases were pretty lame.

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Patrick Dunn
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We got MaMa Mia second run, and for what ever reason the theater that had the print last removed the attached trailer all except for the green band. And for what ever reason I had to be the one to remove it about 2 days after we got the film on my first shift running it. I felt so dumb starting a movie saying there was a trailer and then the movie starts.

My favorite green bands/trailers are the ones that advertise flat movies in the scope formats because they for some reason make it look like the scope lens isn't adjusted properly so one side or both will be slanted. At first i figured it was because the projector isn't centered with the screen since it used to be a change over booth, but the trailers are like that everywhere I see them.

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