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Author Topic: Schneider purchases Isco. Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-23-2008 02:42 PM                     quote: Sam D. Chavez I just installed a Barco DP-2000 with a .98 chip and takes a 4k bulb. You have my extended sympathies on the Barco! The engineer at Schneider who was one of the original optical group engineers at T.I. told me they have trouble with any more then the heat from a 3kw lamp. Perhaps a shorter life on the DMD's but I can only speculate on what the actual effect is. This is one of the main reasons that Christie has stuck with the 1.2" chips, and the new faster generation of 1.2" DMD's have added a much longer life span to the whole 1.2" system overall. Mark  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 08-23-2008 08:16 PM                     quote: Mark Gulbrandsen Be it known that the glass factory that produced Konica-Minolta's glass is in the earthquake region of Shengdou, China. Not to be pedantic but it's Chengdu. Though the main reason I know that is that a few of my teachers at the acupuncture college are from there and at first were really worried for their family back home.  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 08-23-2008 08:41 PM                       Your post is even more sarcastic than usual and you are incorrect on your facts to boot. You said there are no 4k bulbs on .98 chips and I showed you there are. Quoting ex engineers of TI without a name is not a good practice. Let's have a name so I can ask him directly. Everyone knows you need all the light you can get with 3D but there is no reason to run the bulb any harder than needed to accomplish the desired light level. So you might end up running 3.2 K. Big deal! This thread is not supposed to be about trashing a first rate company in D-cinema. It's very early in the game and we'll all be around to see how it all shakes out. You are correct that the new 1.2 chips will run fast enough to use the whole chip for 3D. Trouble is they are not out yet. So you lose 34% of the available pixels running the 1.2 chips in flat ratio 3D. One of the jobs I'm doing is 100% Dolby 3D for a museum so the difference in resolution shows.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-23-2008 09:05 PM                     quote: Sam D. Chavez This thread is not supposed to be about trashing a first rate company in D-cinema. It's very early in the game and we'll all be around to see how it all shakes out. Thank you Sam.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-24-2008 11:35 AM                     Note, there IS to be an upgrade path for Christie brand projectors to the newer 1.2" chips...it is likely NOT a cheap upgrade path. I have not had the prbolems with Barco that Mark has seemingly had though I'm not going to say everything is always rosy either. I can honestly say, there are very definite strengths to the Barco over the Christie in some applications. Whereas ISCO has already developed Anamorphics for DLP, this gives Schneider some extra strengths too. BTW...thanks Sam for your comments.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-24-2008 01:40 PM                     Sam, I was just poking fun at you... not insulting you... geez. You are the last person I'd try to insult and I think you do know that. I will e-mail you this week with the engineers name, my conversations with him have been extremely interesting and enlightning. Without his permission first I will not post his name here, he does not work in any of the Schneider office locations anyway. Now I've never said the BARCO is a poor performer, it does ok... but the CP2000SB does have quite a bit higher inherent contrast ratio and it also beat the comparable model BARCO at a recent test at Malco Theaters by 15-20% in the brightness department, both projectrs running the same size lamp! As for the new chips... Since Christie builds it's own light engine they can perform a simple swap out of the Formatter/DMD's and do it as a R/A or exchange unit. They are supposed to be setting up a Light Engine repair facility in Cyprus in the very near future. I agree, cheap it will not be but it's not going to be anywhere near the price of a new light engine either. quote: Steve Guttag I can honestly say, there are very definite strengths to the Barco over the Christie in some applications. HAving worked with both Christie and BARCO other than the easier GPIO automation interface of the BARCO (if you use it) I can't think of one. Barco is also reportedly moving away from the sealed light engine. Also, no real advantage on the lamp module either except that it costs a fortune. A lamp explosion is still more than likely going to damage the R.A. mirror so getting back on screen after an explosion isn't necessarily going to be quicker than any of the others. Mark  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 08-24-2008 07:50 PM                       Mark, not insulted, just annoyed. You seem to get yourself into these situations quite a lot. Like I said, we'll all be around to see how it all works out. Christie certainly has a very good head start in North America and are doing a very good job building their infrastructure for the future. I visited the Cypress facility a few weeks back and saw the whole place including the NOC and the light engine repair facility. Kudos for sure are in order. Christie's other inherent advantage is that they are a cinema products company, first, last and always, while Barco has a D-Cinema division as it were. It's a bit ironic that Christie, who struggled with the various problems of the Christie projector, learned how to give very good customer service, in part because of these aforementioned issues.  |  IP: Logged

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