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Benny Walters
Film Handler

Posts: 41
From: Columbus, OH USA
Registered: Jul 2008


 - posted 10-23-2008 10:25 PM      Profile for Benny Walters   Email Benny Walters   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, HSM looks more like what I am used to for flat. Black bars between frames and a non-squeezed image.

I was just asking for curiosity sake though. This weekend is going to suck... [Mad]

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Jon P. Inghram
Expert Film Handler

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From: Wichita, KS USA
Registered: Jan 2007


 - posted 10-23-2008 11:12 PM      Profile for Jon P. Inghram   Email Jon P. Inghram   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I might be completely wrong, but I thought I read once that the full-frame flat (no black bars) was the "technically correct" way to do flat?

Glad we only got one copy of Saw and HSM3 as we also have 5 other new prints. And we only have five screens. I am not a fan of film festivals... [Mad]

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Monte L Fullmer
Film God

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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
Registered: Nov 2004


 - posted 10-24-2008 12:02 AM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Oh okey...HSM3 is printed in 1.85/1 Hard Matt flat then since the comments of the "black bars" between each frame...

Film was made for digital releases since that is how digital projectors do their presentations .. in 1.85/1. Then, was printed in the same aspect ratio on film - why of the thick black bars.

-Monte

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Andrew Bangs
Expert Film Handler

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From: Kerrville, Texas, United States
Registered: Sep 2008


 - posted 10-24-2008 01:31 AM      Profile for Andrew Bangs   Author's Homepage   Email Andrew Bangs   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was soooooo happy when we got our two prints of HSM 3 and Saw V (aka Pier 59, If they want to protect it from thieves why put the real name on the outside of the can???) early today. I was done with plenty of time even though Pride & Glory arrived around 6:00pm. Then the final screening of the Express had to go and tail wrap while I was down stairs putting up new posters and movie times. Oh yeah no one was in the theatre to tell us the the movies was not playing correct for the last oh 30 to 45 min.... [Eek!] 2hrs later the film is no longer a pile of spaghetti but safely back on it's patter. All ready to be taken down in the morning...

SHOOT ME NOW! [Confused]

Thank God I am off for the weekend having fun at the Ren Fair. [Big Grin]

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99


 - posted 10-24-2008 01:52 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Monte L Fullmer
To protect the films from them nasty little pirates...
EPIC FAIL! The cans say Saw 5.

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Laurie Higgins
Film Handler

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From: Norcross, GA, USA
Registered: Jun 2008


 - posted 10-24-2008 10:59 AM      Profile for Laurie Higgins   Author's Homepage   Email Laurie Higgins   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You can also look on IMDB.com to see specs on a film. That info is on the left hand side of the film's page, scroll down a bit. [Smile]

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John Hawkinson
Film God

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From: Cambridge, MA, USA
Registered: Feb 2002


 - posted 10-24-2008 03:28 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The IMDB is not reliable. (In fact it is worse than not reliable, because it is often wrong, but right just often enough that people come to trust it).

There is not a "correctness" issue for open matte versus hard matte. Both are perfectly acceptable.

The correct way to distinguish scope and flat is to actually look at a known image, such a person's head or body, and see if the aspect ratio requires a 2:1 stretch. With a little practice, this should be second nature. This is absolutely the best choice, because everything else can be wrong. (And, of course, if there are black bars above and below the image, it ought to be flat. But strange things can happen...)

Beyond that, check the leaders (first), check the Film-Tech Forums Feature Info and Trailer Attachments (FITA) section, check the enclosed trailers, check the cans, check the enclosed paperwork, the studio's web site, the cinematographer's blog, etc.

--jhawk

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