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Andres Briano
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 162
From: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Registered: Jan 2008


 - posted 11-26-2008 04:09 PM      Profile for Andres Briano   Author's Homepage   Email Andres Briano   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
Andres,
If another lamp outlasts the one you are using and give little to no trouble then it IS alot cheaper to use it. Refunds and lost shows because of utilizing poor quality lamps costs both alot money due to lost shows and a theaters reputation!!!!

Mark,
I agree with you on principle, however it is not that easy. In my case, the people that approve POs are skeptic to believe that one brand is better than other. Why? Because it is very hard to demonstrate cientifically beyond doubt that most bulbs would outlast brand X. [Roll Eyes]
So, if I present them with a PO for a bulb for $5, when they have been buying the same model bulb for $4,50, it´s more likely than not that they won´t approve the PO.

"Pea size intellect, you say?"

Now, in order to be able to reduce the price of Christie bulbs, we would have to buy a shit load. Keep in mind feight (12,000 miles), insurance and above all, customs duties. I´m solely trying to explain in which way it would make good commercial sense. Now, not anybody can import such large amounts of products. You would have to be registered as an importer or dealer or something similar, which opens a completely different can of worms for us. Keep in mind, this is Argentina we are talking about.

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Louis Bornwasser
Film God

Posts: 4441
From: prospect ky usa
Registered: Mar 2005


 - posted 11-26-2008 04:30 PM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It is amysery to me why anyone would not buy the newer Osram"XL" bulbs; greater warranty, same price.

As regards Christie/Ushio in Europe: try Bell Theatre Services, London UK. Louis

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James Westbrook
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1133
From: Lubbock, Texas, Usa
Registered: Mar 2006


 - posted 11-26-2008 04:58 PM      Profile for James Westbrook   Email James Westbrook   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Louis,
Wrong continent.
Argentina is the Southern-most country of South America.
(I had to look it up to be sure myself.)

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Chris Slycord
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From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea
Registered: Mar 2007


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quote: James Westbrook
(I had to look it up to be sure myself.)
[Frown] That's just sad.

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James Westbrook
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From: Lubbock, Texas, Usa
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I know. [Frown]

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Louis Bornwasser
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From: prospect ky usa
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 - posted 11-27-2008 06:40 AM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I know Andres and . . . . also where Argentina is. I had read a few other posts and recalled one of the other countries.

We also sell Christie and would be happy to ship to Argentina for Andres. Louis

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Pete Naples
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Dunfermline, Scotland
Registered: Feb 2001


 - posted 11-27-2008 12:49 PM      Profile for Pete Naples   Email Pete Naples   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Louis, I'm starting to see striking problems with the XLs, thus far it's only been on Cinemecannica lamphouses with pulse ignitors. They are either simply not striking of taking so long to strike that the automation shuts down, convinced of lamp failure.

Not a problem in older Cinemecannica lamphouses with brute force ignitors, nor has it been an issue in Strong, Kinoton or converted carbon lamphouses.

I haven't done enough work on the problem yet to make any kind of guesstimation as to the cause, only observation thus far is that it only happens with the Osram Xls.

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Andres Briano
Expert Film Handler

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From: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Registered: Jan 2008


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quote: Louis Bornwasser
It is a mystery to me why anyone would not buy the newer Osram"XL" bulbs; greater warranty, same price.

The reason for that Louis, is that my Osram dealer surcharges the XL line in between 15% and 20%! [Frown]

We´ll be in touch regarding importing bulbs. Thanks.

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